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    Well seeing as how many Iranian speaking people called themselves "Aryan", and Iran is derived from that...

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    I'm a bit more relaxed now... Though I certainly don't like it, I can accept this lesser 'body-count' much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraxis
    Steppe you'd better not be trying to bait someone.
    I'm not. I'm saying that calling themselves Persian would be illogical, since most of the people who controlled Iran called themselves Aryan (Sassanians, for example).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    I'm not. I'm saying that calling themselves Persian would be illogical, since most of the people who controlled Iran called themselves Aryan (Sassanians, for example).
    it would be cool though
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    If they can build a damn, surely to goodness, they have enough expertise to transplant the tomb?
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    The Bolaghi Gorge is still a massively important site that's looks likely to be lost.
    That's where they found the 7000 year old Sassassinid mummy, no? And there's an Achaemenid settlement, prehistoric sites, lot's of stuff.

    'Course, that just isn't sexy enough to be saved.

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    There's a slight technical problem with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    I'm not. I'm saying that calling themselves Persian would be illogical, since most of the people who controlled Iran called themselves Aryan (Sassanians, for example).
    Good! But it would serve you well to make certain that that is your intention. The word Aryan has become... shall we say 'loaded' these last 60 years. Wouldn't want a case of mistaken identity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    I'm not. I'm saying that calling themselves Persian would be illogical, since most of the people who controlled Iran called themselves Aryan (Sassanians, for example).
    I am Iranian and Persian. Farsi, the language, is Persian, and I think it would be more correct to use the word Persian when talking about Farsi-speaking Iranians in English. For instance, Kurds and Balochs are not Persian, but they are Iranians.


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    Kurds should be called "Iranic" in the way that Azheri, Khazars and others are called "Turkic". Persia (and Persians) is the correct terminology for the particular people (the ones that are noted by dynasties as Achaemenid, Sassanid and so on) but there is a larger group of people that are "Iranic" (and that included in antiquity people as the Persians, the Medes, the Sakae, the Parthians and many others).
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    Good point. I was not sure how many Persians inhabit Iran opposed to just Iranian speakers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosacrux redux
    Kurds should be called "Iranic" in the way that Azheri, Khazars and others are called "Turkic". Persia (and Persians) is the correct terminology for the particular people (the ones that are noted by dynasties as Achaemenid, Sassanid and so on) but there is a larger group of people that are "Iranic" (and that included in antiquity people as the Persians, the Medes, the Sakae, the Parthians and many others).
    I would prefer the more widely known Indo-Iranian.
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    I think about 50% of the Iranian population is Persian. They look like armenians greeks italians. This in its self is proof of the IE heritage. I have seen iranians who look arabic, but the persians look "european" I was so angered by the movie about alexander made by oliver stone. None of those "persians" looked pesian. I even heard arabic when the soldiers were talking. It is a shame how uneducated people especially in the media can distored history, and more importantly distort a people.


    there is a documentary being made by an armenian director who seems to have a good amount of knowledge about the Perisan world. The documentary is about the armenian war caled the Vartanantz war against the Sassanid empire in the 5th century. here is the link http://www.archfilm.net/fugitives-princes.htm

    also conceptual art which will be used in the documentary
    http://www.invaderdigital.com/subpages/ancient1.htm
    http://www.invaderdigital.com/subpages/ancient2.htm
    http://www.invaderdigital.com/subpages/ancient3.htm ( the 3rd picture down is Vartan and the armenian cataphracts)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    Well seeing as how many Iranian speaking people called themselves "Aryan", and Iran is derived from that...
    You should hear the comments some "Iranians" make on what they call the "clergical dictatorship."

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