Strongbow Fitzgilbert

**lugh** · 12-05-2005, 13:24

He was a Norman border baron on the welsh frontier. He was the leader of the Norman mercenary faction that was brought to Ireland by Dermot McMurrough to reclaim the Kingdom of Leinster.
As I understand it, most Knights would have been handy with a bow, this guy especially, hence the moniker, but he was definetley a bonafide Norman Knight.

**Dooz** · 12-06-2005, 00:23

Thanks folks, appreciate it.

**Yoyoma1910** · 12-06-2005, 08:12

Check out this link:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=24908

This is a pretty good list, and Rocket Boy does some 'splaining after the listings as to who the people were.

**Ciaran** · 12-06-2005, 11:14

Nice link. But where´s Saladin (Yussuf ibn Ayyub), I thought he was a hero in the campaign as well

Then again, Richard the Lionhearted, Frederick II and Edward the black prince are missing in the campaign as well.

And wasn´t Nur al`Din Saladin´s uncle? I think I read so. Btw, according to the same source, Saladin was a Kurd from Tikrit.

I liked this one, however:

"William","Walays", 1272, # 5,4,3,2,7, fearsome3, GENERAL,ID_SCOTLAND, -1 //Mel Gibson

,

"TomNs","de Torquemada",1420, 1,7,5,4,7, prisoner_killer3, INQUISITOR, ID_LIMBO, -1 //Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

and

"Vlad", "Tepes", 1430, 3,7,2,4,0, butcher, GENERAL, ID_LIMBO, -1 //Christopher Lee

Which Dracula movie has Christopher Lee staring, by the way?

**matteus the inbred** · 12-06-2005, 11:21

Dracula, Prince of Darkness (1966), but he was in at least five more!

i read a very good biography of Saladin recently...Nurreddin (or Nur-ad'din...or Nur-al'din!) was Saladin's overlord, but his uncle was Shirkuh, who preceded Saladin as Vizier of Egypt.

haven't tried the campaign stuff yet, must give it a go.

**Weebeast** · 12-06-2005, 11:29

According to the old discussion Richard, Saladin and Barbarossa appear as royals, not regular heroes. Al Nasir is Saladin. Richard I is..well, Richard Lionhearted (see vice&virtue) and Frederick II is Frederick Barbarossa. It's also mentioned in those links above.

**buujin** · 12-06-2005, 11:59

I've found some info about Richard "Strongbow" Fitzgilbert.

He was an english campaigner in Ireland anmd subsquently became the Irish king ! Take a look.

http://www.irelandseye.com/aarticles...es/norman.shtm

**lugh** · 12-06-2005, 14:12

Nope, King of Leinster. He married Mc Murrough's daughter and was adopted as heir.

**Ciaran** · 12-07-2005, 11:06

Originally Posted by Weebeast

[...] and Frederick II is Frederick Barbarossa. It's also mentioned in those links above.

Er, no, Frederick Barbarossa (1122 - 1190) was Frederick II´s (1194 -1250) grandfather. Frederick II was the emperor who got excommunicated three times, among other things for conquering Jerusalem without the Pope´s permission or killing Saracens.

**lugh** · 12-07-2005, 14:31

I'm pretty sure it was the bows in the hair. He was teased by all the other Normans, that's why he was so eager to go to Ireland.

Yeah, Barbarossa was the one that drowned in a river in Cilicia, he was the first Frederick to be Emperor.

And just to prevent us from beinf shipped off to a Monastery, AFAIK, there are Hofenstaffen heroes in the HRE, you can change the line over from the Karolingians with a Civil War if you're careful. I never managed to find Barbarossa though.