Head of Muslim counsel offers himself as hostage

[Byzantine Prince]

Gah, you kids need to stop playing with strawmen.

OT: Big f'n deal!

[Redleg]

OT: Big f'n deal!

Actually it is a big deal. If the faithful of Islam begin to turn away from those that spout volience and use terrorism in the name of their religion - the ability for the terrorist to use religion to justify his actions are reduced - which will in turn hopefully reduce the draw of the religious into such actions.

[Byzantine Prince]

Since when did extremists make arguments that made sense dogmatically to begin with?

[bmolsson]

He represents the majority of the worlds muslims. The whole terrorist thingy is an embarrassement for real muslims.....

[Redleg]

Since when did extremists make arguments that made sense dogmatically to begin with?

They don't - the error of the faithful exists in their lack of public outcry of what the extremists are doing in the name of thier religion. As more and more of the true followers of the religion voice their opposition and their outrage of what is being done in the name of thier religion - the less the terrorist is able to draw upon that message.

[doc_bean]

They don't - the error of the faithful exists in their lack of public outcry of what the extremists are doing in the name of thier religion. As more and more of the true followers of the religion voice their opposition and their outrage of what is being done in the name of thier religion - the less the terrorist is able to draw upon that message.

Unless one of our Muslim patrons corrects me:

Islam is supposed to be a personal religion, only God can judge whether or not you have been a good muslim and it is not up to men to judge their fellow muslims (on questions of faith).

Of course, this rule gets broken time and time again by the fundamentalists, but this doesn't mean the other muslims have to break it to

[Redleg]

Unless one of our Muslim patrons corrects me:

Islam is supposed to be a personal religion, only God can judge whether or not you have been a good muslim and it is not up to men to judge their fellow muslims (on questions of faith).

The same can be said of Christianity.

Of course, this rule gets broken time and time again by the fundamentalists, but this doesn't mean the other muslims have to break it to

Religious Teachers and Leaders serve as exambles. If a teacher/leader condemns the actions - it tells the others that the action is not consistent with the religion.

[LeftEyeNine]

Islam is supposed to be a personal religion, only God can judge whether or not you have been a good muslim and it is not up to men to judge their fellow muslims (on questions of faith).

That's true with Islam. And Redleg already clarified what's about being a "religious figure/teacher"

[doc_bean]

The same can be said of Christianity.

I'm a Catholic
Christianity is more about communities and a hierarchical structure imho. In Islam, a Mullah Iman (or whatever) is just someone who studied the Quo'ran (and related things) more, this doesn't mean he's always right or that he bnecessarily knows things better. Compare that to the status of priests, ministers, whatever...

Religious Teachers and Leaders serve as exambles. If a teacher/leader condemns the actions - it tells the others that the action is not consistent with the religion.

True, I'm just explaining why some were so slow to react, at least my view on why.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Unless one of our Muslim patrons corrects me:

Islam is supposed to be a personal religion, only God can judge whether or not you have been a good muslim and it is not up to men to judge their fellow muslims (on questions of faith).

That's true for after life treatment. But there are rules for regulating social life as well, such as a complete law system.
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