Dems determined to ignore progress in Iraq

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 12-05-2005, 01:09

Originally Posted by Tachikaze

We don't have the right to transform other nations. Don't you understand that? This is why the rest of the world calls Americans arrogant.

Yet France does? Yet China does?

**Tachikaze** · 12-05-2005, 04:32

Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

Yet France does? Yet China does?

Who's supporting China?

France, in recent years, has done nothing compared with the US. I've never said France was so wonderful, either, except in their resistence to Bush's invasion of Iraq.

I specified the US also because I was responding to the quoted article whose topic is the US in Iraq. It said that the US was doing what others had failed to do in the Middle East after WWI. It implied that the West is superior and needs to guide the inferior Middle East towards enlightenment.

It also implies that colonization by the European powers during the era of political imperialism was good for Africa, South America, and southern Asia. It implies that the rest of the world is stupid and backward and needs our fatherly wisdom.

That's arrogance to me.

**Reverend Joe** · 12-05-2005, 04:36

Edited... it made sense a minute ago.

**solypsist** · 12-05-2005, 04:38

arguing against an op/ed piece is ridiculous. let me know when someone decided to make a thread (supporting the Iraq invasion) with some facts.

liberman got plenty of publicity.

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 12-06-2005, 02:33

Originally Posted by Tachikaze

Who's supporting China?

France, in recent years, has done nothing compared with the US. I've never said France was so wonderful, either, except in their resistence to Bush's invasion of Iraq.

I specified the US also because I was responding to the quoted article whose topic is the US in Iraq. It said that the US was doing what others had failed to do in the Middle East after WWI. It implied that the West is superior and needs to guide the inferior Middle East towards enlightenment.

It also implies that colonization by the European powers during the era of political imperialism was good for Africa, South America, and southern Asia. It implies that the rest of the world is stupid and backward and needs our fatherly wisdom.

That's arrogance to me.

France intervened in countless african nations because they didn't like the government, and when they got their collective arse whooped (Ivory Coast), they cried.

China...hrm...Tibet anyone?

**Strike For The South** · 12-06-2005, 02:35

Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

China...hrm...Tibet anyone?

Arent there like 8 people in Tibet

**Reverend Joe** · 12-06-2005, 02:43

Originally Posted by strike for the south

Arent there like 8 people in Tibet

Seven... one of them escaped.

**Tachikaze** · 12-06-2005, 03:27

Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

France intervened in countless african nations because they didn't like the government, and when they got their collective arse whooped (Ivory Coast), they cried.

China...hrm...Tibet anyone?

I'll repeat myself. France is not so wonderful either.

I implied that I don't support China.

So, what's the problem here?

**Soulforged** · 12-06-2005, 05:47

Originally Posted by Tachikaze

I'll repeat myself. France is not so wonderful either.

I implied that I don't support China.

So, what's the problem here?

I think that the problem here is as always: "But mom my little brother of the east just did it, why can't I do it, even if it's so notoriously wrong". Two evils don't make a good.