Dems determined to ignore progress in Iraq

[Xiahou]

As many of us here predicted before the invasion was launched, not needing high intelligence or crystal balls, but common sense.

It's so depressing that the logical conclusion that we reached in 2001/2002 in the virtual world of The Org has become so real. We were watching as the hawks condemned those people to death and maiming.

The violence is escalating and no one will listen.

Yes, when will we learn? It's so easy to stop the terrorists- if we would just surrender and give into their every demand and move western society back to the stone ages, then they might just leave us alone.

[Geoffrey S]

Lieberman and Murtha present two options: either do the job properly by using more troops to control borders or pull out. I'd support the first, but certainly not the current half-and-half policy excercised by the Bush administration, which drags things out needlessly.

[Tribesman]

They're building the freest society in the region, and the only truly federal system.
OMG has he been following Iraqi poitics at all
Another brillant piece by that Canadian Conservative:

Yeah brilliant for blind optimism and refusal to face facts .

[Tachikaze]

Yes, when will we learn? It's so easy to stop the terrorists- if we would just surrender and give into their every demand and move western society back to the stone ages, then they might just leave us alone.

A few months ago, I started a thread about ending or greatly reducing terrorist and other violent acts commited by Middle Eastern Muslims against the US. It did not involve surrender. It did involve greatly reducing our presence in that region.

How would giving up the "war on terrorism" send us "back to the stone ages"?

[Slyspy]

Yes, when will we learn? It's so easy to stop the terrorists- if we would just surrender and give into their every demand and move western society back to the stone ages, then they might just leave us alone.

That is not what he was saying. He was saying that the whole invasion of Iraq was a strategic blunder that has done nothing to reduce terrorism. Instead, IMO, it has increased the fear and so the threat of terror acts real or imagined. The "yes why not surrender you traitorous dogs" style statement as an alternative to actually admitting that mistakes have been made is used too often and is of little value.

[Hurin_Rules]

Ah, the Sun-Times, that bastion of penetrating insight, which puts girls in bikinis on page 2.

Yes indeed, its journalism at its best.

Was there some actual news here? Because it seems that, in light of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary (rising body count, increasing sectarian tensions, torture 'as bad as it was under Saddam', the US military undermining the Free Press, and an insurgency that is anything but 'in its last throes'), things in Iraq are going quite badly.

Too many people now know the emperor has no clothes.