well is it?
St. George
Is this flag racist?
well is it?
St. George
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
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Re: Is this flag racist?
If it is intended to be, then yes. And based on the situation in Oldham, and the prevalence of BNP there (not to mention thier familiar tactic of recruiting at football matches) I would say it was.
However the flag, and the message, per se, are not racist.
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
Re: Is this flag racist?
I tend to agree about the BNP in Oldham malarky ... but that in itself doesn't make our national flag racist.
http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/00000006D8C1.htm
^For our overseas fellows^
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: Is this flag racist?
It's how you intend it to be, I think. I had a confederate flag on other forum as my avatar. It's just a symbolism; me being here in the south.
Now that flag, I think the saying is a shot at people who weren't born in England or live in England.
Re: Is this flag racist?
I was born in America, I live in America, I'm going to die in America.Originally Posted by Weebeast
Did I offend any non Americans with that?
Oh and short concise terms we have for non-Americans?
Commies.
Why do you hate Freedom?
The US is marching backward to the values of Michael Stivic.
Re: Is this flag racist?
Kaiser, I just recently found out some events that happened in Munich. I'm surprised I didn't hear about them earlier, but I now know where that is.
...sorry for being off topic...
Re: Is this flag racist?
Explain how non-Americans are commies, if you wouldn't mind. I'd love to see how you came up with that one
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Re: Is this flag racist?
What, you mean like this?
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Re: Is this flag racist?
but the 'Stars and Bars' was/is seen as a symbol of a regime that enforced slavery.... we have no real history of utilising slaves in England....I don't see the parallel at all.
I believe an agenda is at work here...to shame the English and to erode our national pride and identity.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: Is this flag racist?
I believe the agenda is to make this spurious claim in order to bolster support for right wing groups.
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
Re: Is this flag racist?
Spurious?? right wing groups???
Over and over again the indiginous population are made to feel guilty and ashamed of their heritage. This is purportrated by the left. If there is a backlash, then they only have themselves to blame for promoting alien cultures above the host nation. I see no right wing agenda there.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
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On a completely unrelated side-note. It suddenly struck me how convenient it is for the British to be able to use 'overseas' and 'non-British' as synonyms. Being an island and all that.
If I were to say 'for my overseas fellows', would that be proper English for 'non-French' or would that be just 'non-sense'? Do Americans have any short concise term for non-Americans?
Re: Is this flag racist?
You could always use the term 'abroad' .... we use both in the UK....but you're right I never thought about it until now, 'overseas' would'n't cut the mustard on mainland Europe now would it?
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
Re: Is this flag racist?
It pisses me off that people use the flag of England in that way.
and another thing what are they moaning about, life in modern England, and the rest of Britan is batter than it ever has been before, and compared to the rest of the world Britan and western Europe are some of the best places to live, if your not wealthy much batter than any other countries.
And would England be batter with out any non English in it right now, no the country as a while would be poorer.
ok enough of the rant
Re : Is this flag racist?
Is the flag racist? No, not by itself.
Was it used as a racist symbol by that guy? I would say so, yes. Or rather, not necessarily racist, but ultra-nationalistic. And I wouldn't want that crap in my stadium either.
Re: Is this flag racist?
Oh for god sake, WHEN WILL THIS STOP?!?
listen, i aint a racist, in fact i enjoy learning and experiencing other cultures. But when you thing that a nations flag is racist, its gone too farthe opposite seems to be happening here. The flag of Saint George is England's Flag, it is not an anti-muslim flag, get over it.
p.s. I apologise to any muslim patrons, those that know me, know that i am not racist, but this is an issue i feel strongly on :) so...let there be love!
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Re: Is this flag racist?
In Glasgow sometime ago there was a kick up about the union jack being anti-{insert culture} but it wasn't the ethnic minorities that were complaining, it was local councillors and other local politicians that felt that it was alienating them. But if you asked the communities they were supposedly standing up for they had nothing against it.
And another note, about Christmas. I have never once heard ethic groups complaining about the festive season, again only local politicians. Strangely enough a lot of shops in these communities sell tons of xmas goodies, so they are hardly against it.
Re: Is this flag racist?
Not to me.Is this flag racist?
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Re: Is this flag racist?
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The flag is innocent but the slogan is too familiar for me; our racists regularly use "love or leave" over here.
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