And not every faction can build longbows/arbs, and as mercs they're scarce & expensive.
Re: Best unit depth for missile troops on a plain?
And not every faction can build longbows/arbs, and as mercs they're scarce & expensive.
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Re: Best unit depth for missile troops on a plain?
All factions can build arbs.
BTW- does anyone know how much more effective the 3-4 formation is on hillsides? I know it's more effective from practical experience, but how much more effective is it?
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Re: Best unit depth for missile troops on a plain?
Neither the Turks nor the People of Novgorod can build them, IIRC, and there may be others (Mongol/Golden Horde?).Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
Last edited by Geezer57; 12-10-2005 at 00:52.
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Re: Best unit depth for missile troops on a plain?
Huh. Never knew that. I think Novograd can build plain crossbows can't they? But still, they are pretty common for MP especially.
As for morale penalty, the Longbow's simple quick rate of killage is good enough to shred a few units on approach down to 50%.
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Re: Best unit depth for missile troops on a plain?
Are you playing a mod, Geezer? IIRC in vanilla Turks and Russians (along with everyone else) can build arbs.
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Re: Best unit depth for missile troops on a plain?
I mostly play XL mod, but was quoting info based on plain MTW+VI. Here's the faction associations for Arbs/Pav Arbs taken from the VI unit production file (using Gnome):
"FN_SPANISH,FN_ARAGONESE,FN_BURGUNDIAN,FN_ALMOHAD,FN_BYZANTINE,FN_DANISH,FN_EGYPTIAN,FN_ENGLISH,FN_F RENCH,FN_GERMAN_HRE,FN_ITALIAN,FN_POLISH,FN_RUSSIAN,FN_HUNGARIAN,FN_NOVGOROD,FN_PAPIST,FN_SICILIAN,F N_SWISS"
So apparently Novgorod can build 'em, but I don't see Turks.
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Re: Best unit depth for missile troops on a plain?
As long as the slope is steep enough to provide the rear ranks with an unobstructed view I think they´ll be as accurare as the two front ranks. And then there´s the hill bonus, increasing range and maybe damage. It adds up.
@Geezer:
I don´t doubt there are situations in which the gunpowder units are usefull, such as you mentioned. However, such situations are - in my opinion at least - too rare for gunpowder units to be of worth.
Re: Best unit depth for missile troops on a plain?
I'm wondering if it has something also to do with the fact that the surface area of the formation is optimized with regard to the perimeter of a formation so it allows for a denser block of fire to come down in a point in an enemy formation with some arrows hitting the area before the enemy(meaning the enemy walks into it) and some after it.
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