Devastatin Dave 19:29 08/12/05
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051208/...ltBHNlYwM3MTY-
I didn't like his music or politics much, but he seemed like an OK guy and he was friendly to the folks he met and talked to and he was great to his fans. Its a shame that some no name bastard shot him just for his fame. Rest in peace John.
I put this in the backroom because I'm sure there might be some discussion on his politics or fame worship in general.
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave:
I didn't like his music...
Music… humm I thought he was an actor. I liked him best in Forest Gump.
Hurin_Rules 20:16 08/12/05
Imagine
Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...
Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...
You may say Im a dreamer,
but I'm not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will be as one.
Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say Im a dreamer,
but I'm not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.
If Chapman had been sane (and a true Beatles fan), he would have shot Yoko that night. The world would have been a much happier place.
Devastatin Dave 21:12 08/12/05
Originally Posted by drone:
If Chapman had been sane (and a true Beatles fan), he would have shot Yoko that night. The world would have been a much happier place.
I'm sure that was tongue in cheek. No one deserves to be shot just for being annoying.
Now if you had said, "If Chapman had been sane (and a true Beatles fan), he would have shot Yoko
when John first met her", then i might agree.
Originally Posted by
Devastatin Dave:
Now if you had said, "If Chapman had been sane (and a true Beatles fan), he would have shot Yoko when John first met her", then i might agree.
Would have been nice. Sorry about the original post, should have put a smilie in there.
I place the blame on Yoko with the other band members. They should have sabotaged that relationship as soon as they realized what she was like.
Ugh. Death anniversaries irk me.
DemonArchangel 21:58 08/12/05
John Lennon was infinitely cooler than the guy that shot him. If I was a jury, I would have rejected Chapman's insanity plea and sent his ass straight to the chopping block.
Phew... I'm glad no one mentioned me in this thread...
Geoffrey S 22:21 08/12/05
Slightly contradictory, BP?
Originally Posted by NeonGod:
Ugh. Death anniversaries irk me.
Seconded. Making a big deal out of the death of a famous guy is stupid. On a sode note he would have been 65, an old man.
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave:
I didn't like his music or politics much, but he seemed like an OK guy and he was friendly to the folks he met and talked to and he was great to his fans. Its a shame that some no name bastard shot him just for his fame. Rest in peace John.
Most ok guys don't leave a wife and toddler to shack up with a new chick once they get famous.
i don´t really like his music and he allways struck me as one of those people that tried way to hard to be a hippie.....anyway...RIP.
Devastatin Dave 00:11 09/12/05
Originally Posted by
lars573:
Seconded. Making a big deal out of the death of a famous guy is stupid. On a sode note he would have been 65, an old man.
Most ok guys don't leave a wife and toddler to shack up with a new chick once they get famous.
That's more on the lines of what I really wanted to say, but i was trying to be respectful.
Originally Posted by lars573:
Most ok guys don't leave a wife and toddler to shack up with a new chick once they get famous.
That was only a symptom. Lennon was a vain, emotionally empty little man.
Meanwhile, back in the sixties, other people were making real music.
Lennon was one of those artists that, whether you loved him or hated him, you knew he was beyond the ordinary. Like Dylan, Sinatra, Elvis, and others.
You can go on and on about how (fill in the blank) they were, but a generation from now, people will still be listening to their music and talking about them, so there must be something special about them.
Originally Posted by Beirut:
Lennon was one of those artists that, whether you loved him or hated him, you knew he was beyond the ordinary. Like Dylan, Sinatra, Elvis, and others.
You can go on and on about how (fill in the blank) they were, but a generation from now, people will still be listening to their music and talking about them, so there must be something special about them.
Probably true, but he was still an egomaniacal arse hole. I won't show people like him respect ever, living or dead.
Good call. Sucks to your death anniversary, Lennon.
Originally Posted by :
Most ok guys don't leave a wife and toddler to shack up with a new chick once they get famous.
Yes he needed to be famous to attract such a wonderful woman as Oko, LOL.
He got married at a very young age.
Originally Posted by :
That was only a symptom. Lennon was a vain, emotionally empty little man.
Emotionally empty . You have got to be kidding, By the way I was a few blocks away the night he was shot. In fact me and my friend had just been pulled over by some cops when they got the call and left us. As a huge Beatle fan I can only say I was in shock when I found out moments later what had happened. John was always my favorite Beatle.
Originally Posted by
Devastatin Dave:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051208/...ltBHNlYwM3MTY-
I didn't like his music or politics much, but he seemed like an OK guy and he was friendly to the folks he met and talked to and he was great to his fans. Its a shame that some no name bastard shot him just for his fame. Rest in peace John.
I put this in the backroom because I'm sure there might be some discussion on his politics or fame worship in general.
The guy actually claimed that 'God' instructed him. Also, there are theories abound saying that John Lennon's murder (or assassination) was a result of a conspiracy.
One good point is that Chapman met Lennon about 6 hours earlier and asked for an autograph but he didn't kill him.
Soulforged 05:39 09/12/05
Originally Posted by Quietus:
One good point is that Chapman met Lennon about 6 hours earlier and asked for an autograph but he didn't kill him.
Did Lennon give the autograph?
Devastatin Dave 05:46 09/12/05
Originally Posted by
Soulforged:
Did Lennon give the autograph?
Yes he did.
Originally Posted by Quietus:
The guy actually claimed that 'God' instructed him. Also, there are theories abound saying that John Lennon's murder (or assassination) was a result of a conspiracy.
One good point is that Chapman met Lennon about 6 hours earlier and asked for an autograph but he didn't kill him.
edit: Sorry. The plea was God's decision (his claim) but not the Murder. At least not from what I've read.
Franconicus 09:00 09/12/05
Guys, you miss the points.
John was a great artist (not only musician) and a great man. He wanted to change the world and did the best he could but he never joined a political party or org. He never was a communist, socialist or whatever. He was always John Lennon, the human being.
He gave us hope and direction - and good rock and roll.
Thank you, John. So sad you left us. We need you more than ever!
NOBODY TOLD ME by John Lennon
Everybody's talking and no one says a word
Everybody's making love and no one really cares
There's Nazis in the bathroom just below the stairs
There's always something happening and nothing going on
There's always something cooking and nothing in the pot
They're starving back in China so finish what you got
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Strange days indeed - most peculiar mama
Everybody's running and no one makes a move
Everyone's a winner and no one seems to lose
There's a little yellow idol to the north of Katmandu
Everybody's flying and no one leaves the ground
Everybody's crying no one makes a sound
There's a place for us in movies you just gotta stay around
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Strange days indeed - most peculiar mama
Everybody's smoking and no one's getting high
Everybody's flying and never touch the sky
There's UFO's over New York and I ain't too surprised
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Strange days indeed - most peculiar mama
I've been wondering what to write in this thread and I've decided that it's best to seem callous than to be a hypocrite so, who cares.
I'm afraid I don't care either. John Lennon and the 60's changed the world, did they?
(Looks around at the world)
Originally Posted by
English assassin:
I'm afraid I don't care either. John Lennon and the 60's changed the world, did they?
(Looks around at the world)

[backroom mode]
That bunch of tree hugging hippies probably did more damage to the planet, and to family values than any other generation. Whether you're left or right, hippies suck !
[\backroom mode]
Working class hero is still an excellent song though
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny:
Yes he needed to be famous to attract such a wonderful woman as Oko, LOL.
He got married at a very young age.
Most likely because he couldn't keep his pecker in his pants.
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny:
Emotionally empty . You have got to be kidding, By the way I was a few blocks away the night he was shot. In fact me and my friend had just been pulled over by some cops when they got the call and left us. As a huge Beatle fan I can only say I was in shock when I found out moments later what had happened. John was always my favorite Beatle.
Egomanical was the term I'd choose. John Lennnon onnly cared about the wants and needs of one person, John Lennon. It was always the vibe I got off him in interviews.
Originally Posted by Franconicus:
He wanted to change the world and did the best he could but he never joined a political party or org.
He didn't even look after his own kid, he was too busy screwing around, taking LSD, writing bad songs and sucking up to an Indian in a skirt.
Change the world?
Please...
Meanwhile, back in the sixties, real men were making real music.
wow the idociy in this thread is surprising this man truly defined a generation [IMG]

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Originally Posted by strike for the south:
wow the idociy in this thread is surprising this man truly defined a generation.
Hank Williams? 'Why don't you all f-f-fade away!'
I mean, here is a group of fine young lads who
really defined their generation.
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