Great artists are rarely great people, and people who accomplish great things are usually vain and egotistical.
He made some good music, that's what he'll be remembered for.
Great artists are rarely great people, and people who accomplish great things are usually vain and egotistical.
He made some good music, that's what he'll be remembered for.
You are prick AdrianII. What can I do though, I cannot stop you. I can only join you. Here's the group that defined MY generation:
I beg your pardon?Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
I have never been a fan of the Beatles. However, I can say that, whilst Van Morrison and the Rolling Stones were making unlistenable trash (I would still choose the Beatles over the *shudder* Stones any day), OTHER people were making good music. People such as
and
also
not to mention
but, most of all,
The Voodoo Child. He will be missed.
Also, John Lennon, however much you may hate him, was not an evil man. Besides, he was shot. Show some respect for the dead. Hell, I don't like him, but I will still show a little respect.
WOW!! This is great...I mean when somebody dies (here at least) people only sais good things about him, no matter his mistakes.
It's funny to look at an aniversary thread degenerate into criticism and flames.
Born On The Flames
Yeah... I should calm down about this.Originally Posted by Soulforged
But I AM going to leave my post up, so that people can see what good music was all about during the 60's... actually, that was what I was really pissed about- Adrian referring to the Stones and Van Morrison as good music. Ech.![]()
You should have been here when Jacques Derrida or Yasser Arafat died. There was little sympathy shown, no quarter given. This is the backroom, Soulforged. If you can't stand the heat...Originally Posted by Soulforged
Oh, and I totally agree that Hendrix was a great musician. I was going to mention him next as one who made real music in the 60's.
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
At least you weren't 'fab'...Originally Posted by Zorba
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The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
'ello, Nail. Meet my friend, Hammer.Originally Posted by AdrianII
Wow, who are all those medieval musicians in those black-and-white pictures?
And who is that Lennon-guy?
Apart from their excellent music (although these days I'd wish they would disappear into the sunset with their wheelchairs and zimmer frames) there is an honest quality about them. Unlike in a guy like Lennon with all his self-involvement and intellectual pretense, what you see of The Stones is what you get. Bastards to a tee, all of them, but honest bastards.Originally Posted by Proletariat
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The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Well, they all had different names and styles, but what united them was that they played musical instruments. A musical instrument -- unlike your modern rhythm box with on/off switch and menu for slow, fast and annoyingly persistent boom-boom -- is a device used to produce tones in accordance to preconceived notions of harmony. They used to play these with their hands, feet (Townsend) or teeth (Hendrix). Funny stuff, eh?Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat
Dunno, he never belonged to them.Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat
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The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Well, there is a difference between John Lennon and a filthy terrorist bastard like Arafat, even you have to agree with me on this, but then again...Originally Posted by AdrianII
RIP Tosa
Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat
*erk*
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Just some Nobodies.Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat
see now thats just sad. A bunch of homos who scream the definig band. Thank god for country and bluegrass and TEXASOriginally Posted by Byzantine Prince
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
See what I mean, Soulforged?Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
Thanks for the object lesson, Dave.![]()
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Yup, I'll take the Bluegrass Clodhoppers over Manson anytime.Originally Posted by strike for the south
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Yeehaw!
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The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Oh but I can...that's what I said this was funny. However you'll have to agree that this is an aniversary thread.Originally Posted by AdrianII
If you want criticism then I shall say to you that the best band of those times was Deep Purple, by a long shot, that improvised song...I think it was "Speed King", WOW, I mean I've seen actors improvise, but musicians, at that level?![]()
Is there? No seriously...Originally Posted by Dave
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Born On The Flames
*pictures Arafat playing the ukulele*
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
This is the biggest load of crap ever posted on these boards. Lennons big care was for humanity. He cared for everyone in fact it seeemed to be his purpose in life to try to make things better for the average man. Just listen to the lyrics of his songs. There wasnt a more caring man on the face of the earth.Egomanical was the term I'd choose. John Lennnon onnly cared about the wants and needs of one person, John Lennon. It was always the vibe I got off him in interviews.
Some people here should be ashamed . Bashing a man who cared so much for humanity and gave us the greatest music in the history of the world.
Yes the kid grew up poor and neglected. How about all of Jaggers kids? Is there even a counting of them and the women who had them? The guy was a friggin mucscian during the 60s. They all more women than they knew what to do with.He didn't even look after his own kid,
Bad songs? And what Indian is this? The beatles are the greateest group in history and Lennon was their leader. If not for the Beatles many of the groupd you mentioned may well never have made it. You really need some musical history lessons here. The Beatles were musical geniuses and are compared today to Beethoven and other great classical composers. Many of you here it seems lack class and taste. Other than that I love all the other groups you mentioned but they dont hold a candle to the Beatles.he was too busy screwing around, taking LSD, writing bad songs and sucking up to an Indian in a skirt.
Change the world?
Please...
Meanwhile, back in the sixties, real men were making real music.
Fighting for Truth , Justice and the American way
WOW, you really hate talent don't you?Originally Posted by AdrianII
You are sad. First Lennon and now M.Manson. Who's next ? Elvis?
This whole thread has me humming Don MacLean's signature song.![]()
Thanks a lot...now I'll never get to sleep you collective pack of twerps!
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"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
John, RIP. While I hate Yoko, he was a great enough guy to get around the fact, and his music is incredible. I just hope people will realize what a great musician he was and stop listening to evil music...
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"But if you should fall you fall alone,
If you should stand then who's to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home."
Grateful Dead, "Ripple"
Unfreakingbelievable.Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Alot of people care about alot of things. If I don't agree with the second part of your statement, why would I care about the first? I personally would rather listen to a guitar being hit with a cat than to the Beatles.Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
So Mick is being used as the standard role model for fathers these days? At least Jagger wasn't sanctimonous about his role. Sheesh.Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
I don't understand how someone like you could get so emotionally charged over something so obviously subjective.Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
This reminds me of all the imbeciles in my middle school who wore black for months after Kurt Cobain died. Yeah, Teen Spirit was catchy, but so is Sherri Lewis's Song That Never Ends.
If you liked his music, say you like his music. Let's not pretend this is the anniversary of Mother Theresa's death.
Cobain didn't help folks. Lennon did. So did Harrison, with his Concert for Bangladesh. I fail to see how it is so alien for you people to realize that musicians can help, and many do.
Damn it, you've made me return to the backroom. I thought I had escaped...![]()
"But if you should fall you fall alone,
If you should stand then who's to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home."
Grateful Dead, "Ripple"
They didn't. And even if they did, he wouldn't be a sanctimonious closet revolutionary about it.Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
My, I can see you know your classics. Ever heard of the Mahareshi?Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
So is 50 cent, depending on who you believe.Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
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The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
You better freakinbelieve it, my lady, Lennon liked to think he was more popular than Jezus... BTW I see we simultaneously used the word sanctifreakinmonious whilst opposing Jagger to Lennon.Originally Posted by Proletariat
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The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
I was about to type the same before I read this. Pretentious seemed to carry too little weight for a musician with this ego.Originally Posted by AdrianII
If you'll excuse me, I have to go calm myself down with Chopin's nocturne op.55 (personal favorite) and another shot of Patron.
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Musicians don't "help", they just manipulate others in to "helping". It's called the power of celebrity. Also Cobain killed himself/was murdered before he was 30, where as Lennon was 40 when he died. Cobain never had a chance to get to 30 and start to evalutate his life the way Lennon did.Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
I never really disliked the beatles or Lennons music. What turns me off is the personalities, especially Lennons. He was an asshole, his bigger than Jesus crack was his assholery showing through. Ever see the clip of his apology, his tone and body language are of a man who really didn't want to do it. And that though his remark was nothing.
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