New Patches released next week

[Kraxis]

I think it is about them not expanding but that have been fixed if you read the read-me.

Lets hope that this...

AI-controlled factions will now make proper use of ships.

...means that the problem is fixed.

[TB666]

Lets hope that this...

...means that the problem is fixed.

Well since scipii and brutii can only expand by using ships then the problem must be there.
Atleast that is what I have read from the bug-report(haven't played RTW since I got BI so I haven't seen the problem yet)

[Shoraro]

Huzzah...no more Huns calling me Strategos

Very interested in how battles against Roman AI play out now. Might make early Roman Hastati heavy armies a bit more dangerous.

[Seasoned Alcoholic]

Improvements have been made to the AI when orchestrating Skirmish Maneouvres.

AFAIK, you will get a CTD anytime you face roman_velites in RTW v1.3. Has anyone else encountered this? I've had a look at descr_model_battle.txt, and it looks as though there are couple of things that cause this CTD. Replaced this section of the text with an older version, and things are now working fine, no more CTDs.

Here are both sections of the text, note that the second section (containing the potential bugs) has been edited out of the game using semicolons (;).

type                roman_velite
skeleton            fs_semi_fast_javelinman,  fs_semi_fast_dagger                        ; throwing spear/javelin & short sword
indiv_range            40
texture                romans_julii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_julii.tga
texture                romans_brutii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_brutii.tga
texture                romans_scipii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_scipii.tga
texture                romans_senate, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_senate.tga
texture                slave, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_slave.tga
model_flexi            data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_high.cas, 8
model_flexi            data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_med.cas, 15
model_flexi            data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_low.cas, 30
model_flexi            data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_lowest.cas, max
model_sprite        slave, 60.0, data/sprites/slave_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite        romans_senate, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_senate_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite        romans_scipii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_scipii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite        romans_brutii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_brutii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite        romans_julii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_julii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_tri            400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

;type                roman_velite_temp
;skeleton            fs_fast_javelinman, fs_fast_dagger                        ; throwing spear/javelin & short sword
;indiv_range            40
;texture                romans_julii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_julii.tga
;texture                romans_brutii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_brutii.tga
;texture                romans_scipii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_scipii.tga
;texture                romans_senate, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_senate.tga
;texture                slave, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_slave.tga
;model_flexi            data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_high.cas, 8
;model_flexi            data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_med.cas, 15
;model_flexi            data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_low.cas, 30
;model_flexi            data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_lowest.cas, 40
;model_sprite        slave, 60.0, data/sprites/slave_roman_velite_sprite.spr
;model_sprite        romans_senate, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_senate_roman_velite_sprite.spr
;model_sprite        romans_scipii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_scipii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
;model_sprite        romans_brutii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_brutii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
;model_sprite        romans_julii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_julii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
;model_tri            400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

[EDIT:]I've highlighted in bold where the code changes between the latest and original

[Red Harvest]

Huh? I've never had a CTD versus velites in 1.3.

There might be some sort of issue with the max LOD range, but the skeletons work fine elsewhere.

[player1]

Interesting that many of the listed fixes were previously incorporated in Bug-fixer.

That's good sign.
Tumps up!


P.S.
I hope there will be no need for new bug-fixers anymore...

[Seasoned Alcoholic]

Huh? I've never had a CTD versus velites in 1.3.

There might be some sort of issue with the max LOD range, but the skeletons work fine elsewhere.

Referring back to the code, which section is your roman_velite properties (in d_m_b.txt) similar to? Or is it completely different to what I've displayed?

I was puzzled myself earlier when the game kept CTD everytime a Roman army containing velites was faced. Crashed just before it loaded up to the battlefield. Managed to work out which was the offending unit by testing all units (from both armies) one-at-a time in custom battles.

[Kaldhore]

Interesting that many of the listed fixes were previously incorporated in Bug-fixer.

That's good sign.
Tumps up!


P.S.
I hope there will be no need for new bug-fixers anymore...

Can you patch right over your game if you installed the bug fixer?
Or will a reinstall be a must>?

[player1]

Bug-fixer is supplied with Original Data folder, with backup of original files that got overwritten with bug-fixer.
Use them to replace bug-fixer files and you get clean 1.3/1.4 version. No need to reinstall.

[Zatoichi]

This just in from Shogun of .com fame regarding ETA of patch:

Should be live in the next 48 hours absolute tops. I will put the link up as soon as I have it!

Linky: http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...ID=32268.topic

[Viking]

I didn`t see anything about AI and religion. I take it that they didn`t fix it.

[Red Harvest]

Referring back to the code, which section is your roman_velite properties (in d_m_b.txt) similar to? Or is it completely different to what I've displayed?

I was puzzled myself earlier when the game kept CTD everytime a Roman army containing velites was faced. Crashed just before it loaded up to the battlefield. Managed to work out which was the offending unit by testing all units (from both armies) one-at-a time in custom battles.

My section looks just like yours (not the temp section.)

If it is crashing on you then something is wrong with one of the velites files. Could be that you have a corruption in one of the models, or the skeleton. Do velites crash for all four factions? Or only one of them. If it is just one, then it is either the sprite or texture. If it is all four then it is the model or skeleton.

Skeleton seems unlikely though, because other units use the same skeleton.

[adamus]

AFAIK, you will get a CTD anytime you face roman_velites in RTW v1.3. Has anyone else encountered this? I've had a look at descr_model_battle.txt, and it looks as though there are couple of things that cause this CTD

I'm pretty sure that this is the offending line:

;model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_lowest.cas, 40

It should read "max" instead of 40

[Red Harvest]

I'm still trying to figure out where his 40 came from. It wasn't like that in the raw patch file.

[fallen851]

When is this patch coming out? Like sometime this week?

[Red Harvest]

When is this patch coming out? Like sometime this week?

Shogun/Jerome said some time in the next 48 hours...about 36 hours ago. Very soon.

[red comyn]

Shogun/Jerome said some time in the next 48 hours...about 36 hours ago. Very soon.

anyone else getting that excited tingling feeling

[Ilsamir Lord]

I got that right now! I really want to continue my Julii campaign from 1.2!