Attacking town CTD

**Hans Kloss** · 12-10-2005, 17:19

With non error message CTD's there is not much that you can do.Try to check files again and see - sometimes one comma in the wrong place makes all the difference

Otherwise,this a bit tricky ...you could always try to download Windows Debugging Tool.It helped me to solve CTD problem with Mundus Magnus version 2 map for RTW 1.3

**Tittils** · 12-10-2005, 19:40

I don't know how to use the Windows debugging tool.
but anyways, the problem seems to be rebels related. If I look at my town and that town doesn't rebel, I can get past turn 1, but when I try to move my camera over one of the towns that has rebelled, it CTD.
Does anyone know what would cause this kind of problem?

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**Hans Kloss** · 12-10-2005, 22:46

Funny enough Mundus Magnus bug was also related to rebel unit without "slave" tag in export_descr_unit.No message woiould come out -just black screen crash.It could something t do with rebel's units AI spawn.Check your descr_rebel_factions

As for Windows Debugging tool...it would work as long as RTW crash leaves some sort of "dump" file in Windows Temp folder.That file can be read by this program and there are (usually) some lines that give a clue what went wrong and why crash occured.

**Andreas** · 12-10-2005, 23:57

Originally Posted by Tittils

I don't know how to use the Windows debugging tool.
but anyways, the problem seems to be rebels related. If I look at my town and that town doesn't rebel, I can get past turn 1, but when I try to move my camera over one of the towns that has rebelled, it CTD.
Does anyone know what would cause this kind of problem?

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I had a problem like that when I missed adding a entry in the expanded.txt file for rebel cities....

**Tittils** · 12-11-2005, 00:36

ok, thanks.
What entry had you missed?
Btw, RTW isn't leaving a dump file in my temp folder

I could play a battle against rebels with sassanids, but for empire east it crashes after turn one when some cities rebel.

**Hans Kloss** · 12-11-2005, 11:56

Btw, RTW isn't leaving a dump file in my temp folder

This is that tricky bit because they are not always there.When general fault message appears, you need to leave on the screen, exit RTW (through alt+ctrl+del) and go go to c:/docs&settings/user name/local settings/temp,right click to arrange icon so you know what files are the latest and try to open them with Windows Debugging tool.They are not exactly called "dump" files -I can't remember what file extensions they are.

**Tittils** · 12-11-2005, 12:41

Ok, thanks. But when this happens, it crashes right to the desktop, so I can't leave RTW on screen.
I'll do some more testing

**Tittils** · 12-11-2005, 13:00

Finally solved. I changed all the default factions in descr_regions to franks, and now it works! This probably has some connection with the way rebels are spawned. This is very weird.
Anyways, it is solved now.
Thanks for your help guys:)

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