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    Parthian Warlord Member Revenant69's Avatar
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    Great stuff Conqueror. I'll have to remember to use this tactic. Although, the AI hasn't tried to sally against me, yet.

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    Hows this for interesting. I set all of my seige towers to fire at will before the battle began, and placed them in a nice wall line to head for the walls.

    Right as the battle started, they all fired "every single" of their missles at once! I had never sceen something like that before, so I printed the screen with it on pause, with over a hundred pikes flying from the towers.

    I moved the camera behind the AI on the walls, hit play again. A wave of bodies went flying off the epic wall lol!!!

    I later forgot about the print screen, and hit Ctrl + C on some text, and then realised what I did. I rushed to paint to paste the screen shot, but of course, it had been over written with the text.



    Still one of my most interesting battles (was won by the way, took some losses, those epic walls shoot missles back you know!).

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    Using a clipboard manager, such as the shareware ClipMate, helps in such situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revenant69
    Great stuff Conqueror. I'll have to remember to use this tactic. Although, the AI hasn't tried to sally against me, yet.

    Cheers
    Wait long enough in "siege" mode, and they will sally out after you. When I lay siege to a city with a full stack, I find it's easier to let them wear themselves down by internal riots than it is to take the walls and then take the town square.

    "If", I take towers in against a full stack, it's almost always to meet a deadline with a Senate Mission, and cannot wait another turn.

    A few nights ago, the Senate gave me a mission to take one of the Cities along the East Mediterranean. That was fine, as I had already formed a 3 large armies of Urban Cohorts, Praetorian Cavalry and Archers and was sailing in that direction with one of them anyway with two more near a fort I had between Larissa, Thermon, and Athens.

    The very next turn, I get orders from the Senate to have my faction leader commit suicide. I refused, and was immediately outlawed as I am sure all of you have been as well. I also turned my fleet around and headed it for Rome. I also put the other two armies on ships, and sent THEM to Rome as well.

    I disembarked all three armies just outside of Rome simultaneously and laid siege.

    SPQR's three full stacks attacked me, one at a time from outside, therefore dragging the city garrison into the fight but outside of the walls. That was foolish on the part of the AI as I put special effort on destroying the city garrison while they are outside of the walls.

    Yes, SPQR sent three full stacks. Hastati, Principes, Triarii, Velites, and Equites; against Urban Cohorts, Praetorian Cavalry, and Archer Auxillia, in an open field. There may have been a few Legionary Cohorts and Cavalry Auxillia, but by and large, I felt like it was an unfair fight. But after being betrayed by SPQR, and knowing I was going to have to take on the rest of the Roman world in addition to everybody I had already taken on at the Senate's orders, I didn't worry about it. SPQR suffered some 6,000 casualties, to my less than 100 each attack.

    By the time my own turn came up again, the tile reading "Faction Destroyed, SPQR" appeared.

    They had it coming.

    What I am getting at, is if you can starve them out, you have less casualties. If they have a 3rd party army ring your shield from outside while you are laying siege, it's easier to destroy the city garrison on the field than taking the walls, and in some cases, trying to "find your way" to the town square with towers shooting at you all the way. In some of those cities, the way to the town square seems to be a maze that takes you in loops all around the town. If your "go to the town square" force moves faster than your men running on the walls, that can hurt.

    If an outside army rings my shield when I am laying siege, then they are doing me a favor.

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    Last edited by Celt Centurion; 12-27-2005 at 20:15.

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