Bugged trait - Can't find the issue

**GiantMonkeyMan** · 12-11-2005, 23:16

has the guy still got the old faction leader trait in descr_strat?... also the faction heir/leader triggers have to work together... perhaps make a new faction heir trait as well unless you can't be bothered but from a quick glance that looks fine....

**alpaca** · 12-12-2005, 00:14

Try differentiating the trigger name from the trait name, maybe this causes the problems.

**Malrubius** · 12-12-2005, 17:00

the VnVs enums file (actually, all enums files) are ignored by RTW. You need to edit export_VnVs.txt in your Data\text folder with the correct entries. The validator does not work with this Unicode file, so it doesn't check for valid entries in export_VnVs.txt, but it does generate a sample enums file for all non-hidden traits, which must have corresponding entries in export_VnVs, so you just need to make sure those entries exist.

Code:

{Basileus}  Basileus

{Basileus_desc}
This dude is the basileus!

{Basileus_effects_desc}
+1 Influence

The giveaway is that it CTD's when you pull up the general's list of traits. That means the entry in export_VnVs.txt is bad.

**Meneldil** · 12-13-2005, 13:08

Well, I found the issue. Apparently, I had to give it an 'antitrait heir'. If I delete it, it CTD's, but it work fine with the antitrait (even if there's no trigger to activate it).

Now, I'm facing another problem. I've spent 1 hour wondering why this trait wouldn't work.

Trait :

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trait Jorsalfar
    Characters family

    Level Jorsalfar
        Description Jorsalfar_desc
        EffectsDescription Jorsalfar_effects_desc
	Epithet Jorsalfar_epithet_desc
        Threshold  1 

        Effect Influence  2
        Effect Management  2
;------------------------------------------

Trigger :

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Jerusalem_Captured_Viking
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition EndedInSettlement
          and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
          and SettlementName Jerusalem
   	  and CultureType hun
 
Affects Jorsalfar 1 Chance 100 

;------------------------------------------

It has the good entries in export_VnVs (including the epithet one). Basically, the character should get this train when he ends his turn in Jerusalem, with his full MP. But, whatever the hell I do, the trait just *won't* work when there's a condition 'and SettlementName Jerusalem'. I tried to make a WhenToTest GeneralCaptureSettlement - Condition SettlementName Jerusalem' trigger, it didn't work either.

Now, I'm not totally stupid, and I double, and even triple checked the settlement's name. I even tried with the settlement in game name ('al-Quds aš-Šarīf'. It caused a fatal error because of unrecognized letters), with the province tag (Judea), and with the province in game name (also Judea).

I know the settlementname condition works with the anciliaries in BI/RTW, but does it work aswell with traits ?

For now, I'll leave it like that, as I don't want to spend a whole day finding the issue, but I just see no reason this trait wouldn't work.

**Meneldil** · 12-13-2005, 14:59

Ok, after reading all the topics related to traits, anciliaries and scripts, I finally found what was going on.

The SettlementName condition definitely looks for the display name (here, 'al-Quds aš-Šarīf'), not for the tag (in my case 'Jerusalem'). Since using the 'al-Quds aš-Šarīf' name in the trait file create a fatal error, I changed the display name to 'al-Quds as-Sarif', and changed the condition to
SettlemmentName al-Quds_as-Sarif

It didnt work, so I changed the display name to 'Jerusalem', and the condition to settlementname Jerusalem, and it worked fine.

It might be an old news to experienced traiters/scripters, but I haven't seen any reference to that in any topic.
Edit : I should have looked better - https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=43121