Jail for 'honour killing' family

[ShadesWolf]

From the BBC website.

A father who ordered his two sons to carry out the "honour killing" of his daughter's boyfriend after she became pregnant has been jailed for life.
The body of electrical engineering student Arash Ghorbani-Zarin, 19, was found with 46 stab wounds in Oxford on 20 November last year.

Bangladeshi waiter Chomir Ali, 44, must serve a minimum of 20 years in jail.

Sons Mujibar Rahman, 19, and Mamnoor Rahman, 16, were given minimum terms of 16 and 14 years respectively.

'Shame and dishonour'

Mr Justice Gross, at the Royal Courts of Justice in London, said it was a "cold-blooded intentional killing".

He told the three, who were all present in the dock: "Far from vindicating your family's honour you have permanently dishonoured your family with the stain of murder."

During the trial, Oxford Crown Court heard the two sons killed Mr Ghorbani-Zarin due to the "shame and dishonour" brought on the family by his relationship with Manna Begum.

The pair met in 2003 through school friends, who described them as devoted to each other, with Miss Begum becoming pregnant in August 2004.

But Miss Begum's father had planned for her to have an arranged marriage.

So do you think the sentence is enough. Or should have been more ?
Personally I think it is to little and should have been life without parole.

[Marcellus]

Personally I think it is to little and should have been life without parole.

I don't like the idea of life imprisonment with no hope of release - it seems to remove one of the key reasons the prison service exists - to reform - since anybody who does reform can never be released. And whilst you might argue that a person will never reform, I think that you cannot be sure of what a person may be like in twenty years' time. I think that for crimes like this the option of life long imprisonment should be available, but there should always be the possibilty of release.

[Dâriûsh]

Arash Ghorbani? He must have been an Iranian.

[ShadesWolf]

cold-blooded intentional killing".

was found with 46 stab wounds

This was cold blooded intentional planned murder.
Why should they be released, as far as Im concerned they should all be executed for the crime.

[Marcellus]

This was cold blooded intentional planned murder.
Why should they be released, as far as Im concerned they should all be executed for the crime.

They should only be released if they have clearly reformed. Otherwise, they can stay in jail.

[Crazed Rabbit]

A father...has been jailed for life... must serve a minimum of 20 years in jail.

Hmm. You've got a different concept of 'life' over there it seems.

They should only be released if they have clearly reformed. Otherwise, they can stay in jail.

So, saying you're sorry you killed someone and are now a better person makes the dead come back to life?

Crazed Rabbit

[ShadesPanther]

Hmm. You've got a different concept of 'life' over there it seems.

Crazed Rabbit

It's the same in America. Actually I think it's less

[Marcellus]

So, saying you're sorry you killed someone and are now a better person makes the dead come back to life?

Of course not. Nothing will bring the victim back to life, not imprisonment for the rest of the criminal's life, not the death penalty, nothing. But keeping a reformed person in jail serves no purpose: the person has reformed, so is no longer a threat to society, so keeping the person in prison is only revenge, not justice. Plus, it's wasting tax payers' money.

[Leet Eriksson]

Arash Ghorbani? He must have been an Iranian.

Iranians are natural chick magnets

[DemonArchangel]

Didn't you read the article? It's Bangladeshi.

And Faisal, why do people perform honor killings? (Want a Muslim perspective.)

[Leet Eriksson]

Didn't you read the article? It's Bangladeshi.

And Faisal, why do people perform honor killings? (Want a Muslim perspective.)

They didn't really specify if he was bangladeshi or not (the victim).

As for the aspect of honor in society, its pretty big, when someone is dishonored he is looked down upon by society, which is why they resort to killing the person who caused it(it still happens even in advanced muslim states, like egypt for example, mostly in rural areas).

Rather backwards thinking, at least here when a family are dishonoured, they don't resort to killing, they immediatly dis-own their son/daughter who caused it, still far better than resorting to killing someone, becuase its stated that killing is absolutely forbidden.

[English assassin]

The victim was Iranian if I remeber the coverage correctly.

That was quite a good quote Lugh.