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    The Sword of Rome Member Marcellus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    So, saying you're sorry you killed someone and are now a better person makes the dead come back to life?
    Of course not. Nothing will bring the victim back to life, not imprisonment for the rest of the criminal's life, not the death penalty, nothing. But keeping a reformed person in jail serves no purpose: the person has reformed, so is no longer a threat to society, so keeping the person in prison is only revenge, not justice. Plus, it's wasting tax payers' money.
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    I actually don't see how this is an honour killing.

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    she was betrothed to somebody (picked by her family) else and disobeyed her father - that screams insulted family honour to me.

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    kill em
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff
    she was betrothed to somebody (picked by her family) else and disobeyed her father - that screams insulted family honour to me.
    That rather screams, "Don't touch my stuff," to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonGod
    That rather screams, "Don't touch my stuff," to me.

    Well, yeah, you could put it that way too.

    Defend my honour, defend my stuff.

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    Default Re: Jail for 'honour killing' family

    Of course not. Nothing will bring the victim back to life, not imprisonment for the rest of the criminal's life, not the death penalty, nothing. But keeping a reformed person in jail serves no purpose: the person has reformed, so is no longer a threat to society, so keeping the person in prison is only revenge, not justice. Plus, it's wasting tax payers' money.
    So if a person killed 5 people in one day, then reformed within a week of going to prison, you'd let him out?

    And what if somebody killed 7 people 30 years ago, then reformed, but only just got caught? Would you put him in prison at all?

    Punishment is justice.

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    Life in jail is a harsh figure a type from the days of capital punishment, for those countries that have overcome them. It's the equivalent to death penalty, of course it doesn't has the little drawback of no return, but it's still inhumane and only shows that there's no measure to hold the irrationality of men.
    The "correct" way to go in my opinion is to give him no more than 18 years, with parole. Of course there's always a "more" correct way to go (but I'll not enter philosophycal in this one.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    So if a person killed 5 people in one day, then reformed within a week of going to prison, you'd let him out?
    No, I would give a lengthy prison sentence, firstly because a long period of time would be needed to observe the extent to which the person has reformed, secondly because the sentence acts as a deterent.
    "Look I’ve got my old pledge card a bit battered and crumpled we said we’d provide more turches churches teachers and we have I can remember when people used to say the Japanese are better than us the Germans are better than us the French are better than us well it’s great to be able to say we’re better than them I think Mr Kennedy well we all congratulate on his baby and the Tories are you remembering what I’m remembering boom and bust negative equity remember Mr Howard I mean are you thinking what I’m thinking I’m remembering it’s all a bit wonky isn’t it?"

    -Wise words from John Prescott

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