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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonArchangel
    Didn't you read the article? It's Bangladeshi.

    And Faisal, why do people perform honor killings? (Want a Muslim perspective.)
    They didn't really specify if he was bangladeshi or not (the victim).

    As for the aspect of honor in society, its pretty big, when someone is dishonored he is looked down upon by society, which is why they resort to killing the person who caused it(it still happens even in advanced muslim states, like egypt for example, mostly in rural areas).

    Rather backwards thinking, at least here when a family are dishonoured, they don't resort to killing, they immediatly dis-own their son/daughter who caused it, still far better than resorting to killing someone, becuase its stated that killing is absolutely forbidden.
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    The victim was Iranian if I remeber the coverage correctly.

    That was quite a good quote Lugh.
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    It is the "culture" of misconceived honour that should stand trial here.
    The real victim is the girl that lost her father, 2 brothers and her lover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by English assassin
    That was quite a good quote Lugh.
    Can't claim it I'm afraid, saw it in a sig on swordforums.com

    @ doc_bean : He's shown himself to be either a murderous little sumbitch, or so influenceable to be a tool of anyone who whispers in his ear.

    As others have mentioned, this is part of a tribal sub culture that needs to be smashed. Id've thought it'd be eroded by urbanization but unlike the usual course, immigrants aren't experienceing the cosmopolity of urban life that put paid to things of this manner in the west. Break up the urban ghettos, ban religious schools and religious paraphernalia in them, and teach a balanced cultural curriculum but with a heavy emphasis on the indiginous culture. It should all have been started decades ago, unfortunately we'll have the problem for decades more because of this.

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    Don't you think a 16year old raised in a fundamentalist family that was ordered to kill his sister and probably had very little choice (maybe they even threatened to kill him if didn't do it, at least he would have been cast out of the family) in the matter does deserve, after serving a LONG sentence, a second chance at life ? God knows a lot of 16year olds do very stupid things. Okay, this is far beyond what the average 16y old does, and 'deserve' is probably not the right word here, but, wouldn't it be the humane/compassionate/even reasonable thing to do ?
    No

    We all know right from wrong. Its illegal in this country to murder.
    What comes first a countrys law or some tribal culture.

    We all have a choice if we dont like the law we can always leave and more to another country that best fits the way we feel. At the moment, my family and I are seriously considering leaving the UK and moving somewhere else, with less liberal law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadesWolf
    We all have a choice if we dont like the law we can always leave and more to another country that best fits the way we feel. At the moment, my family and I are seriously considering leaving the UK and moving somewhere else, with less liberal law.
    That would rule out most of Europe, and most US states, maybe you can move to Texas
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