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    Flavius Claudius Julianus Member NodachiSam's Avatar
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    I guess trying to ally with your ally's enemies or provoking them to attack are the ones that makes the best sense. Sometimes it can pay to assasinate your fathers and brothers in law but inheriting stuff is so rare is hardly worth mentioning.

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    I don´t know why, but I´m really bad at the diplomacy business. I usually have my emisaries all over the place, pestering the other kings for marriages and alliances, but they´ll never agree. Not only if they´re allied to factions that are at war with me, all the time. And, of course, the AI just loves the "naval incident" to break up my alliances.

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    [QUOTE=Ciaran]I don´t know why, but I´m really bad at the diplomacy business. I usually have my emisaries all over the place, pestering the other kings for marriages and alliances, but they´ll never agree. Not only if they´re allied to factions that are at war with me, all the time. [QUOTE]

    Once your country/empire grows big enough, nobody wants to be your fiend. In my case, I have never attacked a faction without being attacked first but I have no allies and three enemies ( all the rest are eliminated by me or are pissing their pants if someone mentions fair England 'insane laughter' )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran
    I don´t know why, but I´m really bad at the diplomacy business. I usually have my emisaries all over the place, pestering the other kings for marriages and alliances, but they´ll never agree. Not only if they´re allied to factions that are at war with me, all the time. And, of course, the AI just loves the "naval incident" to break up my alliances.
    I experience pretty much the same. The A.I. doesn't like you, especially not at higher difficulties I think. Nobody will sign an alliance with you if you are at war with their allies, BTW. However, I find I can get marriages by refusing an alliance offer and then sending a diplomat to catch one of their princess. The naval incident can be prevented to some extent by not using single fleet ships and staying away from large concentration of enemy ships. The A.I. knows it has an edge in naval combat, but doesn't seem to realize this provokes war.

    I also very often see "global peace" with everybody but me having +6 allies at the start of the game, and me and my enemies the only ones being at war. Blimey, and I thought this game was about Total War...
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    Often, I play as the Germans, and i always seem to get plenty of allies, until i get to control most of western europe from allies backstabbing me. For some reason though, after I've taken out the French and English, everybody starts attacking me one at a time til the end of the campaign, so I never have problems backstabbing neighboring factions.
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    just had that 'naval incident' playing as the Hungarians...took Venice, crushed the HRE, wiped out the Poles, all very nice. and then the Byz, with whom i had had cross-border trade and peace for a hundred years suddenly attacked all my ships and beggared Venice in one turn. cos i'm tooling up to attack France i pull all my (remaining) ships out, send in an emissary and patch it up, only for them to do it again ten years later, this time sailing frantically into the western med to attack my one ship (and fail)! Patched things up again, but we're now only a few years from the Horde, at which point Byzantium will find its enemies don't just come from the east...AI backstabbers receive no mercy from me.
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