Backstabbing your allies?

[Martok]

Martok, don't we gain influence by conquering two provinces? That said, we can gain influence back even is treaty is broken as long as we make a 'successful campaign'. No?

Correct. From one of my earlier posts:

I had a game going as the Spanish, and I couldn't understand why my king's influence kept fluctuating as I was conquering the Iberian peninsula (your Influence goes up 1 point for every 2 provinces you conquer).

In that game, my influence was at the standard 4 before I began my war against the Almos, Aragonese, and later the French. When I was done, my influence was at 6: I'd conquered something like 7 provinces, but I'd also betrayed 3 allies as well. Fortunately, however, I'd launched 2 successful Crusades (1 against the Almos and 1 against the ex-commed French); otherwise my influence would've stayed at 4, despite all the land I'd acquired.

Anyway, I learned this backstabbing ordeal differently but the hard way. One time I crusaded against HRE as the Spanish. Not just I lost a friend but I also lost my 8-star ex-prince because my crusade got disbanded as someone else got the province first. I tried too find him in local inns, found him in Cordoba but he got that florin tag on his picture.

Ouch! Yeah, that's gotta smart....