King Kong out today!

**GFX707** · 12-19-2005, 01:56

Another remake.

More ropey CGI.

Woo.

**Steppe Merc** · 12-19-2005, 02:27

I wondered when the insulters would come. I'm outa here before I get myself in trouble.

**GFX707** · 12-19-2005, 03:01

Originally Posted by Steppe Merc

I wondered when the insulters would come. I'm outa here before I get myself in trouble.

Sorry, it's just my opinion!

Not wanting to start a flame war.

**Aurelian** · 12-19-2005, 03:29

I saw Kong last night.

I give it three ratings: a 10, a 7, and a 4. The first part of the movie, up until the first dinosaur shows up, was a 10. Very engaging. Great characterization. Jack Black was in good form. Scary natives.

The rest of the time on Skull Island gets a 7 or 8. Still fun, but Peter Jackson has a tendency to smash right through my "suspension of disbelief" with his action scenes. The insects were disgusting. I did like the Tyrannosaurus fight. Poor blondie took a beating from Kong that Wonder Woman might not have survived (especially when he was knuckle-running while holding her).

The final section of the movie only gets a 3 or 4 from me. 1930's New York was really well-done throughout the movie. Other than that, the slower pacing and emotional bit between gorilla and blondie didn't really work for me.

Overall, it was enjoyable enough, but there were a few times during the movie when I wished I had a fast-forward button.

**Mikeus Caesar** · 12-19-2005, 22:18

Just came back from seeing it half an hour ago, and my opinion is....

OMFG BEST MOVIE EVAR!!!

I may exagurate (sp?) a bit, but it was one hell of a good movie. Especially the giant bugs. Nasty things.

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**Puzz3D** · 12-20-2005, 02:55

King Kong is a poorly made movie. Bloated beyond belief with sub-plots that go unresolved, developed characters that disappear from the movie, and plot holes that you can drive a truck through. What happened to the menacing natives or the ship's captain? Where is the coast guard to go after the freighter that makes a "fast" getaway. Where did Denim get the map? How did 8 men get Kong onto the freighter? How did the native get Ann off the ship with no one noticing? Doesn't she know how to scream?

King Kong himself is remarkably rendered and animated very well by Andy Serkis, but some of the other animation is poorly done. The brontosaurus stampede is very fake looking, Ann Darrow looks like a toy doll in the long shot of Kong as he runs through the jungle and Skull Island looks like Mordor. The New York skyline is well done, but the street scenes look like a cartoon where nothing ever gets dirty especially the yellow taxi cabs.

Peter Jackson has changed all the main characters. Carl Denim is now an unscupulous movie producer who is wanted by the police. Jack Driscol is a nerdy script writer instead of a strong and handsome member of the ship's crew. Ann Darrow has become an animal rights activist. King Kong is a lovable teddy bear compared to what he was in the 1933 movie, and Ann Darrow was terrified of him. Jackson substitutes closeups for dramatic moments I guess so we have time to figure out what the character is thinking. Naomi Watts must have 50 closeups. She does very well acting to the blue screen, and I hope this movie doesn't ruin her career.

The laws of physics are thrown out the window. T-Rex's hanging from apparently tensile steel vines. Kong getting bitten on the arm by them multiple times with no effect. Ann uninjured when Kong fights 3 T-Rex dinosaurs without putting her down. Men falling 300 feet and getting up uninjured to fight bugs. Jack and Ann gliding down to the ground holding onto a bat's leg. They run through the jungle, I kid you not, for 5 seconds and are back at the wall. Why aren't Ann Darrow's feet ripped to shreds running through the jungle barefoot? A kid who has never shot a gun shooting bugs off of Jack with a tommy gun that's jumping all over and Jack doesn't get hit at all. The captain and his men somehow finding them at the last second before the bugs get them and miraculously shooting all the bugs from way up above the valley floor. Ann Ripped from her bindings by Kong without her hands being ripped off. Her clothes never get dirty. Kong sliding around on thin ice in New York without falling through. The freighter bashed up against rocks by very rough seas and the hull broken but somehow it's all fixed in no time. Skull Island shrouded in impenetrable fog, but once they get onto the island the fog is gone. Jack uninjured when Kong flips the car he is driving 30 feet in the air.

There is no erotic element. There is no suspense. The pacing is terrible. The script is awful. The killing is all antiseptic. Ann Darrow wears only a silk dress in wintertime New York with snow on the ground, and climbs to the top of the Empire State building that way. How did Jack Driscoll get up there when the ladder was shot away? Jack Black's delivery of the final line "beauty killed the beast" is poor. How do you reconcile than with the fact that she was doing everything she could to save Kong?

Even the 10 year old boy I went to the movie with felt manipulated by the sappy sentimentality, and the movie didn't impress him.

**Duke Dick** · 12-20-2005, 14:00

Yeah; great review mate. Who did you copy it off?

I loved the film. Some people can't look past small discrepancies to see the quality this film has.

Un-Frontroomish language - Beirut

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 12-20-2005, 14:10

Puzz mate don't you think your judging the film abit? I think your looking for faults that are not really there. Skull island looks nothing like Mordor and who really cares about the laws of physics and inaccurate things on that level, its a fantasy film with a 25 foot gorilla fighting dinosaurs, insane red eyed natives (who i thought were great but prayed they would get trampled on. In fact that is only grip that the natives didn't get blitzed by Kong and also taking the swamp scenes out) and sailors getting onvolved in in a Bronto stampede.

The men who survived the fall into the insect pit held on to the log, none of the guys who fell directly off it survived. The spider pit sequence that was cut out of the 33 version saw men fall off a log with some 50-60 foot drop then apparently fighting with insects till eaten and ripped apart. That is wrong as well as they couldn't have survived that sought of drop but would you judge that in the same way?

I'm not trying to be harsh on the 33 classic but that has its faults as well, the story, the acting but i still love it like i loved Jackson's film. Its just abit of escapism dude and i think your just being harsh on it.

**Puzz3D** · 12-20-2005, 17:45

Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia

Puzz mate don't you think your judging the film abit? I think your looking for faults that are not really there. Skull island looks nothing like Mordor and who really cares about the laws of physics and inaccurate things on that level, its a fantasy film with a 25 foot gorilla fighting dinosaurs, insane red eyed natives (who i thought were great but prayed they would get trampled on. In fact that is only grip that the natives didn't get blitzed by Kong and also taking the swamp scenes out) and sailors getting onvolved in in a Bronto stampede.

The film is a mess, and you know it. King Kong isn't supposed to be a 25 foot gorilla. He's supposed to be KING KONG who everyone, including Ann Darrow, is petrified of. What is sitting on the cliff or on the Emipre State building looking at the sunset all about? Do the bats come out and attack King Kong every evening or just when Ann Darrow is there?

Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia

The men who survived the fall into the insect pit held on to the log, none of the guys who fell directly off it survived. The spider pit sequence that was cut out of the 33 version saw men fall off a log with some 50-60 foot drop then apparently fighting with insects till eaten and ripped apart. That is wrong as well as they couldn't have survived that sought of drop but would you judge that in the same way?

Meriam Cooper edited out the spider sequence for good reason. The men who fall off the log in the 1933 version die when they hit the ground. The 15 minute bug fight in Peter Jackson's version is stupid, and detracts from the flow of the movie. The things on Jack Driscoll look like giant crickets, and if they were all over him supposedly trying to eat him, how come he has no bites on him?

In one place in the jungle there are small flying insects buzzing around the party and landing on them. They move a short distance away from that spot, and the flying insects are all gone. What happened to them? That spot in the jungle is off limits to bugs?

Why is there almost no blood in this picture? Well, I know why because they have to get that PG-13 rating for all the kiddies. Well the kiddie I saw the picture with thought it was silly. So, I as an adult am supposed to think it wasn't silly?

Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia

I'm not trying to be harsh on the 33 classic but that has its faults as well, the story, the acting but i still love it like i loved Jackson's film. Its just abit of escapism dude and i think your just being harsh on it.

It's a poorly made film, and it alters the original story by having Kong follow Ann Darrow because she was nice to him. In Peter Jackson's movie Kong is such a sad and lonely creature that getting killed was putting him out of his misery. I felt more sympathy for the Kong in the 1933 version.

You're right this is a fantasy movie. I rate this a fantasy on the level of The Never Ending Story. Peter Jackson might as well have given Kong wings so that he could fly away from the airplanes with Ann Darrow on his shoulder and they could live happily everafter on Skull Island.

**Beirut** · 12-20-2005, 23:27

Originally Posted by Duke Dick

Some fags can't look past small discrepancies to see the quality this film has.

Interesting.

Now, please exercise your typing skills and erudite proclivities and explain to us all how homosexuality causes one to view film discrepancies with a greater scrutiny than heterosexuality.

Or you could edit your post lest ye be spanked with a warning point offence for using un-Frontroomish comportment.