The Iraqi elections...

**Xiahou** · 12-15-2005, 20:20

Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

The temporary government was already "favored" by US. Do you think anyone whom US dislikes can come into power through elections in Iraq honestly ?

They can and probably will. I seriously doubt that the Sunnis will elect many American lapdogs as their representatives.

**Strike For The South** · 12-15-2005, 21:16

I glad its going well and hope Iraq will be able to stand on its own 2 feet

**Tribesman** · 12-15-2005, 22:07

I glad its going well and hope Iraq will be able to stand on its own 2 feet
Make that its own six feet while kicking the shite out of each other along tribal/religeous lines SFTS .
It would have been 10 feet but the turkomen and christians seem to have had their legs cut off already .

**Strike For The South** · 12-15-2005, 22:47

Originally Posted by Tribesman

I glad its going well and hope Iraq will be able to stand on its own 2 feet
Make that its own six feet while kicking the shite out of each other along tribal/religeous lines SFTS .
It would have been 10 feet but the turkomen and christians seem to have had their legs cut off already .

Im just trying to be optomistic

**Tribesman** · 12-15-2005, 23:14

I would like to be optimistic , but this election wil be followed by more wrangling and assasinations until they finally decide to throw an inconsequential position with no power but a big title to a secular leader to try and shut them up and play ball , then it goes back to making a constitution as the last final and definitive step they took that way left the main issues still undecided , so with the Shite religeous groups calling the shots that means uh oh a new Iranian sub-state .
Meanwhile with the Kurds miraculous voter registration program they are likely to add another province to their self governing body which is great , if you happen to be a Kurd living there , if you ain't then its time to move out quickly before you end up having an unfortunate accident . The self governing body will continue on its way and break away , leading to lots of wider problems .

**JAG** · 12-16-2005, 00:30

Wow, Adrian can talk a whole heap of sense at times, very well put sir.

One of the only good things to come out of the whole Iraqi invasion, at least, has been the proven failure of the 'new norm' of military action, that being preemptive war.

Dave, the elections are a sham, not only are they far from being fair and free - of which the basis of elections are meant to stand on - but also they are for an office which has it's economic policy dictated to it by the IMF and US corporations and it's social policy dictated by it's lack of economic control. So, win, win for the US, is that why your so happy?

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 12-16-2005, 02:18

Pre-emptive war isn't a "failure" JAG - it's just being implemented in a less-than-satisfactory manner.

Certainly we got the "war" part down, just the follow-up is amiss.

**JAG** · 12-16-2005, 03:49

Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good

Pre-emptive war isn't a "failure" JAG - it's just being implemented in a less-than-satisfactory manner.

Certainly we got the "war" part down, just the follow-up is amiss.

Which shows why you don't get it... The 'after' was the war, the actual fighting was merely process which was needed to go through to get there.

**Xiahou** · 12-16-2005, 04:05

Originally Posted by JAG

Which shows why you don't get it... The 'after' was the war, the actual fighting was merely process which was needed to go through to get there.

Not at all, we could've rolled in and devastated the place and left again- war won. It's the nation building that's proving more difficult.

I think mistakes were made early on, but we're taking the right steps now- this election being a case in point.