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    Default How many factions in EB?

    Just wondering how many factions EB is planning on having, and more importantly, how many factions will be in the open beta?

    Also what will the be the makeup of the "rebel forces", will every province pretty much be owned by one faction (like in vanilla) or will there be a lot of rebel provinces?
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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    152. And that's just for the OB.

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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    There are a lot of rebel provinces. The factions really only have what they had in history, and that leaves a lot spaces in certain areas. But they aren't just generic "rebels", there are unique units that are rebels.

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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

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    Equal to or less than 21.

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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    Does EB use the same ERE/WRE rebel factions that BI had? I haven't played BI myself, but reading about the system it seems perfectly cut for the Seleucid and Ptolemaic empires who did have many trouble subduing seperatists because of the sheer sizes of their empires. It would also add some more challenge, because the Seleucid are in a vastly advantagous position due to their many rich provinces.

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    Question Re: How many factions in EB?

    I believe the problem with that system is that each "rebel" faction requires it's own faction slot, so implementing it unfortunately eats away at the number of of available faction slots very quickly?

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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
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    Equal to or less than 21.

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    Right, but how many will make the open beta?
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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    Quote Originally Posted by Germaanse Strijder
    Does EB use the same ERE/WRE rebel factions that BI had? I haven't played BI myself, but reading about the system it seems perfectly cut for the Seleucid and Ptolemaic empires who did have many trouble subduing seperatists because of the sheer sizes of their empires. It would also add some more challenge, because the Seleucid are in a vastly advantagous position due to their many rich provinces.
    EB is not on BI, so no. However, I can tell you (as a Beta Tester) that the Seleukid and Ptolemaic rebels will be a severe problem anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallen851
    Right, but how many will make the open beta?
    I already told you.

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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    The number of factions we will have will be 21.



    Oh, you wanted something more specific? Well, after due consideration and sophisticated computational analysis so advanced that you would suffer an immediate aneurysm if we even began to explain it to you, we have decided that the most accurate representation for the period involves no more than eight factions. All other units we've showcased, such as the Roman and Celtic units, will actually be rebels-only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simetrical
    The number of factions we will have will be ? 21.



    Oh, you wanted something more specific? Well, after due consideration and sophisticated computational analysis so advanced that you would suffer an immediate aneurysm if we even began to explain it to you, we have decided that the most accurate representation for the period involves no more than eight factions. All other units we've showcased, such as the Roman and Celtic units, will actually be rebels-only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simetrical


    Oh, you wanted something more specific? Well, after due consideration and sophisticated computational analysis so advanced that you would suffer an immediate aneurysm if we even began to explain it to you

    Sorry to disappoint you, but always remember: we know what's good for you way better than you do, and we always have.
    You must be a graduate student.

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    factions? yeah right like there is moddeling going on in the EBH.
    Its just khelvan with 20 puppet accounts and few other. The only thing we do in the EBH is finding new ways to torture you.

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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    Quote Originally Posted by fallen851
    Right, but how many will make the open beta?
    about 11

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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    20.

    It does look possible. Quite. Seriously, it does. Really, I mean it.

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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Mark
    20.

    It does look possible. Quite. Seriously, it does. Really, I mean it.
    This thread shoul be re-named " How to confuse EB fans "

    For the moment we are beetween 11 and 152 factions(in this case there are a lot of previews to be made...)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spendios
    This thread shoul be re-named " How to confuse EB fans "

    For the moment we are beetween 11 and 152 factions(in this case there are a lot of previews to be made...)
    you mean between 8 to 152 faction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Mark
    20.

    It does look possible. Quite. Seriously, it does. Really, I mean it.
    More sarcasm than I can handle at once...

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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    Quote Originally Posted by fallen851
    You must be a graduate student.
    Nope, undergrad.
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    There shall be one faction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simetrical
    Nope, undergrad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alman7272
    There shall be one faction.
    Bartix. The only faction you'll ever need.

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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    I heard EB has a create your own faction feature!
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    When it it coming out ? Eheh....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LestaT
    When it it coming out ? Eheh....
    to come out or not to come out that's the question...

    well it's not going to take to much. but next time try to look around it has been asked over and over...

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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    As I said in that other forum...We can't release it for a couple days, at least, as we're still updating text on the website and we're still putting together the installer with our options. Then as soon as we're sure we've found as many of the campaign-blocking CTDs as we can without mass help, and fixed them if possible, it will be released.

    This is basically the hypothetical scenario I discussed in the past. We are now at a point where the campaign is playable, but we still have CTD bugs that crop up occasionally. One has shown up 24 turns into the game or so - does it happen all the time? I'm not sure. But who wants to play a game, even a beta, that might crash, for -every- person, 24 turns into the game?

    If you guys can tell me you wouldn't mind getting to test such a version with us, and find the bugs, I'm ok with releasing it. But I suspect that if we did that, every person but those who said "Yes, oh God yes!" here, would complain.
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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    Quote Originally Posted by QwertyMIDX
    I heard EB has a create your own faction feature!
    That's what I heard too! I believe it involves editing a few dozen text files and creating an extremely large amount of visuals from scratch.
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    Default Re: How many factions in EB?

    as much scripting as you doing in you mod, im not suprised that you have ctds or it takes you longer to fix them
    look at rtr for an example, im just gald you havent set a date.

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    Ah, we can't blame the scripters for any CTD's (well, maybe one, but it's not game-crippling). Those pesky traiters, on the other hand...

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