Patriot act will expire on Dec 31st

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 12-17-2005, 02:57

Ciao, America. Hello, Islamic Republic of Northistan.

**Slyspy** · 12-17-2005, 03:01

Or possibly hello again America, it seemed as though you had got a bit lost there for a moment.

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 12-17-2005, 03:38

Originally Posted by Slyspy

Or possibly hello again America, it seemed as though you had got a bit lost there for a moment.

No, not really.

As a member of the Islamic Republic of Americistan, I can say that you are wrong.

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 12-17-2005, 03:43

Di\oes anyone else other than me think this is really about the coming elections?

**Tribesman** · 12-17-2005, 03:53

Before some people get too excited about the return of their civil liberties . Any investigation from before dec 31st is still covered , as is any person who might be linked to any event before that date or any person who might be linked to any person who might be linked to any person who might be linked to any event .
As this act can cover just about any event or any person , then it is still in effect for everybody for just about everything .

**AntiochusIII** · 12-17-2005, 04:05

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Before some people get too excited about the return of their civil liberties . Any investigation from before dec 31st is still covered , as is any person who might be linked to any event before that date or any person who might be linked to any person who might be linked to any person who might be linked to any event .
As this act can cover just about any event or any person , then it is still in effect for everybody for just about everything .

In other words, this can only offer a weak barrier against governmental breach of civil rights.

It is, still, a barrier.

Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

As a member of the Islamic Republic of Americistan, I can say that you are wrong.

Sadly, since I forgot to force my woman to wear the burqas today (oh, I don't have a woman, but that's not the point here), I will soon be arrested by the secret police. See you in Canada, folks! I'm going...err...out!

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Di\oes anyone else other than me think this is really about the coming elections?

Originally Posted by AntiochusIII

So the Democratic political gamble was a success, eh?

But they face a battered opponent (politically) and it's probably an easy victory for them. Hopefully now that they at least *win* something they would finally get their acts together to present a realistic alternative for the 2006 elections to the increasingly radically Right Republicans. They hold all three branches--the balance isn't very good.

But I still support the move all the same. It fits with the individualism spirit of America, isn't it? You are a libertarian, you should appreciate the move, right?

**bmolsson** · 12-17-2005, 06:42

It seems like the paranoia is being cured....

**KafirChobee** · 12-17-2005, 08:47

The "Patriot Act" (what a great sounding name? EH?) was passed in a state of panic. No one, and I mean no one took the time to read past the first page. When they finally did? Well, those of a civic and demoracratic-republic attitude went "Holy crappers!" - we just signed away our democracy. Thing is, one can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

Show cause, and believe me all of congress would sign up ... even the ACLU. But, keep it a "secret" (for national security - which the Limballers will believe, but the rest are still going to act like Missourians of old ... "show-me") and expect people to demand their rights back. It is the American way - we can be BS'ed, but god forbid the BS'er lied. 'Cause then? We will resort to being Americans - which is an independent buncha uncontrollable voters. Thing is, the Republicans got to feel happy that Nov2006 is so far away and the Democrats still don't have a clue.

Still, the end of the "Patriot (Nazi) Act is a good start.