is there a map of europe around 323 BC?

[Ranika]

The Teutones were not all of the Germanic tribes, but only one. When the Germanic tribes conquered the Urnfeld peoples who inhabited much of what would be Germania, and drove off the Celts there, they initially were fairly ill-equipped people with undeveloped weapons. They would import superior Celtic weapons, and imitate the style with what iron they could get. The Teutones were, to my understanding, sometimes viewed as partly Celtic because of their usage of almost all totally Celtic equipment and that some of them even spoke a Celtic language. Teutonic mercenaries worked for a lot of folks, and they reputedly had no qualms with marrying into Celtic tribes or families. However, they were certainly Germans due to a few customs, some things about the way they fought, and definitely by bloodline, they were Germanic. I believe EB will have Teutone mercenaries eventually, but that'll be post-OB.

[Reverend Joe]

The Teutones were not all of the Germanic tribes, but only one. When the Germanic tribes conquered the Urnfeld peoples who inhabited much of what would be Germania, and drove off the Celts there, they initially were fairly ill-equipped people with undeveloped weapons. They would import superior Celtic weapons, and imitate the style with what iron they could get. The Teutones were, to my understanding, sometimes viewed as partly Celtic because of their usage of almost all totally Celtic equipment and that some of them even spoke a Celtic language. Teutonic mercenaries worked for a lot of folks, and they reputedly had no qualms with marrying into Celtic tribes or families. However, they were certainly Germans due to a few customs, some things about the way they fought, and definitely by bloodline, they were Germanic. I believe EB will have Teutone mercenaries eventually, but that'll be post-OB.

[Sdragon]

Since we're in the time frame for now I've got a couple of questions, a couple of kingdoms that I see on a bunch of maps but know nothing about.
Massilia and Bosporan. Who were these guys? How did they fight? What happened to them? Massilia at one point just drops off the map while Bosporan was around long enough to be even in BI.

[RandyKapp]

I think Massilia is just a Greek colony.

[Ranika]

Massilia was also a Roman ally, and off-and-on an ally of Gauls, and ended that relation in the vast 'off' setting. Romans used this as a pretext to conquer the southern coast, and absorbed Massilia then, I believe it was.

[Spendios]

Since we're in the time frame for now I've got a couple of questions, a couple of kingdoms that I see on a bunch of maps but know nothing about.
Massilia and Bosporan. Who were these guys? How did they fight? What happened to them? Massilia at one point just drops off the map while Bosporan was around long enough to be even in BI.

Massilia (modern Marseille) was founded by Phocaean Greeks in 600 BC and became a big trade city in western Meditterranee. It allied with the Romans in 124 BC though it kept good relations with the gallic tribes near them (their main problem was Carthage who was a concurrent for trade )
In 49 BC, the city chose the side of Pompey and was destroyed by Caesar during the war. Caesar founded the city of Arles for his veterans with the territory of Massilia who was now reduced to only a city. After that the city steadily declined until the 11 th.


I don't know a lot about Massilia military but it may have been a classic hellenistic force with hoplites, peltasts, a few cavalry and maybe some gallic mercenaries.

[Chester]

Is there anything that Ranika does not know?

[Sarcasm]

No.

[Ranika]

The flattery is nice, but there's plenty. I have only a passing knowledge of many things outside the Celtic sphere in the era (Teutones, Greeks who fought with Galatians, etc., all fall into it, though even then I can forget details not about the Celts themselves), and my memory sometimes gets blotty even within it when I've been up too long, and I'll misstate things without intention, or poorly word my statements, or forget things.