The Official KoD thread *SPOILERS*

**SMZ** · 11-01-2005, 20:06

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Now that that's out of the way...

It's time to talk about things we all noticed in KoD and how that may impact this here mod. :)

Post away everyone!

**SMZ** · 11-01-2005, 20:20

A few things I noticed:

1. The Band of the Red Hand has changed a good bit with grenade throwing sling-staff men, fast cranking crossbows, flares and more...

2. We got our first up close look at Ogier weapons, in both the Westland variety and the Gardeners.

3. We know to mess with the numbers on effectiveness of projectiles a good bit, it's been remarked in RTW that archers can use every arrow and hardly impact a unit; in WoT however units have repeatedly been shown to get slaughtered to the man by the clever use of projectiles

4. We now know about possible emerging factions like Manetheren and The Golden Crane. We knew people were talking about Perrin raising Manetheren for a while, but now we see how widespread that talk and feeling had gotten. And we can be sure that The Golden Crane is flying by the end of this book.

One note... we should keep things we noticed to things that happened in this book. This mod will be done long before the next book or Guide comes out... so speculation on Mat's "dragons" for instace is no good. We can't include cannon yet... because they don't exist... Aludra may die for all we know...

Oh, that reminds me: We saw a train too! :)

**Steppe Merc** · 11-01-2005, 20:47

I loved it, because it gives a lot more possibelties for horse archer units. Between the Domani, the Tarbon guys fighting for the Seachaen, the Band of the Red Hand, not to mention the Saladaens and the rest of the Borderlands, I think at least one lancer with a bow unit is needed.

And I'd love to see a a Golden Crane faction, or at least a rebel unit or mercanary unit or something (given the large amount of Malkieri figthing for Borderlanders).

One thing I was confused about. Did Perrin end up being a vassal to the Seachean? He offered it, I know, but when they parted ways the general didn't really make any mention of it.

All in all, deffiently the best in the series for a long time.

**SMZ** · 11-02-2005, 03:26

yeah... that was a bit confusing... because he didn't really submit to the Seanchan... his offer wasn't lordship of the Two Rivers, but more along the lines of refraining from raising Manetheren's banner in opposition to the Seanchan...

so if the Seanchan never make it that far... as seems likely given Elayne being in Andor with popular support in Cairhein and baby momma to the Dragon freakin Reborn... then I think his offer is considered null and void...

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another cool thing I noticed - we got our first look at a Sharan :)

**Barid** · 11-02-2005, 06:34

Originally Posted by SMZ

yeah... that was a bit confusing... because he didn't really submit to the Seanchan... his offer wasn't lordship of the Two Rivers, but more along the lines of refraining from raising Manetheren's banner in opposition to the Seanchan...

so if the Seanchan never make it that far... as seems likely given Elayne being in Andor with popular support in Cairhein and baby momma to the Dragon freakin Reborn... then I think his offer is considered null and void...

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another cool thing I noticed - we got our first look at a Sharan :)

Ok... A Sharan? Did I miss something? Noal? Hell my asstuteness is questionable sometimes... hell I still think it was Semirhage who killed Asmodean.... well, that was my first thought anyway.

A Manethran faction would be cool though.

**SMZ** · 11-02-2005, 09:00

yep, yep - we only see the Sharan for a brief moment however...

When Rand goes to the inn in Tear... as he is entering he hears a fellow with dark skin and tight, curly hair using an "odd musical accent" while talking about obtaining andberry leaves for silk worms he has. The fellow is speaking haltingly... almost as if he was trying to use a language he isn't familiar with :) My money says it's a Sharan. Because a few seconds later, Alivia hears the familiar "drawling accent" of Seanchan and goes into shock. So a fellow using a strange accent and with dark skin has to be either Sea Folk, Seanchan, Sharan or from the Land of Madmen.

Madmen are presumbably madmen. Sea Folk have familiar accents by this time as do Seanchan. Sharans on the other hand do not, AND Shara is the source for silk, and thus silk worms. :)

**Steppe Merc** · 11-04-2005, 23:58

Oh, and you guys need to have a Zebra mount. Mabye for just the general, or something, but you need at least one Zebra!

**SMZ** · 11-05-2005, 00:30

lol - razors can't be zebras... I don't care what anybody says

**Steppe Merc** · 11-05-2005, 00:48

Originally Posted by SMZ

lol - razors can't be zebras... I don't care what anybody says

What? Why not? The description is exactly matching a zebra. You don't get horses with straight white and black stripes. You can get paliminos, but not like that.

Besides, there are elephants, lions, why not zebras?

**SMZ** · 11-05-2005, 05:21

well - one: zebras are the size of donkeys and this horse was described as being "17 hands" I think... two: zebras for all intents and purposes cannot be domesticated - they just aren't trainable...

iunno... might be some kind of zebra-horse hybrid creature... which would explain their rarity... since the offspring would be sterile

**Steppe Merc** · 11-05-2005, 16:14

Hmm, your right, zebras are only 11-13 hands high, I read...
Though perhaps in the Wheel of Time world, they evolved to be bigger?

Seriously, I really can't imagine having a horse with that sort of patterns, nor the Domani being so protective of it if it was a normal horse...

Regardless, I would really want to see a Domani general on a razor.

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