FootBall,(soccer) Clip, MUST SEE

[Fragony]

Im telling ya they both suck compared to rugby union,
Its the only real sport!

so get ya heads down and ruck up.

Loved to play it at school, but it isn't very alive here in Holland, as far as I know there isn't even a national team. Out of the 3 sports rugby sure as hell is the most violent one, football is a no-contact sport and with these american football uniforms you could fall 100m and still survive. It is a great game for sure.

[Strike For The South]

Loved to play it at school, but it isn't very alive here in Holland, as far as I know there isn't even a national team. Out of the 3 sports rugby sure as hell is the most violent one, football is a no-contact sport and with these american football uniforms you could fall 100m and still survive. It is a great game for sure.

have you ever put the pads on

[Fragony]

have you ever put the pads on

Can't say I have, but rugby and american football are pretty similar, but with the american variety you have all sorts of protection, I don't see what is so hardcore about all that.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

And i think id like to see 15 all star american foot ballers vs 15 of the best rugby players
In a full game of rugby.

No doubt the rugby guys would win. Im sure theres plenty of skill and techniqe involved. But if the Rugby guys tried to take them in foorball it wopuld be a total massacre and they would never even score a point. Theresa a lot more to NFL football than havig the best atheletes.

football is a no-contact sport and with these american football uniforms you could fall 100m and still survive

So your cluless on the matter. Again you hit a lot harder with pads on. Not only that their used as weapons.

Again for any of you who missed it watch THIS and tell me football is a no-contact sport .


PS pay close attention to the black and white clips. In the old days tackling people by what ever you could grab was perfectly legal incuding the helmet. Also clotheslines and crackback blocks were legal. They had to change the rules to keep people alive.

[Strike For The South]

Can't say I have, but rugby and american football are pretty similar, but with the american variety you have all sorts of protection, I don't see what is so hardcore about all that.

Well the pads are there to enable a bigger hit not deable it. If look at Gawains video you will see Eric Dickerson lower his head and plow straghit through someone. I would much rather play football without pads for the simple reason it would hurt less. If you have ever taken a helmet to the gut you would know what I mean

[Just A Girl]

Dont wear the damn helmet....
Then you dont need the dumb pads.
If you die cos some 1 tackeld ya full blooded Just cos you had no padding,
you shouldnt have been on the feild,
Throw some 1 who isnt strong or fit enough in to a game of rugby and The chances are high they could die.
same with american football, If there not capable of surviving a tackel without needing padding.
Dont put em in the game,

[Strike For The South]

Dont wear the damn helmet....
Then you dont need the dumb pads.
If you die cos some 1 tackeld ya full blooded Just cos you had no padding,
you shouldnt have been on the feild,
Throw some 1 who isnt strong or fit enough in to a game of rugby and The chances are high they could die.
same with american football, If there not capable of surviving a tackel without needing padding.
Dont put em in the game,

Yes but I dont want to play rugby I want to play the tougher game AMERICAN FOOTBALL. It hurts more with padding!

[Gawain of Orkeny]

If look at Gawains video you will see Eric Dickerson lower his head and plow straghit through someone.

You noticed that one to huh? I want to see a hit like that in Rugby. Speed is a much bigger factor in football. More speed equals more energy. Thats why hockey players have to wear pads as well. Now dont go trying to tell me Hockey players are wimps. If any of you doubt you play harder with pads think about soccer. I played on a championship team in HS so I know what soccers about. If yoy play without shin pads you dont play half as hard as with them. A good cup helps as well. Are soccer players sissys as well?

PS I heard the other night that Massachusetts wants to make helmets mandatory for soccer.

Measure calls for soccer helmets
Value of headgear is much debated
By Russell Nichols and Raja Mishra, Globe Staff | December 14, 2005

Like football and hockey players, soccer players would have to don helmets on the field to protect their heads, under a new legislative proposal.


No other states appear to have passed a similar law, Massachusetts lawmakers and physicians said. The proposal marks the first time this debate, which has long roiled the youth soccer world, has spilled into the state's political arena.

With strong evidence of long-term neurological damage among a portion of veteran soccer players, some soccer officials, parents, and physicians around the nation have recently been pushing for more safety measures for young players, including an outright ban on heading, an integral part of the world's most popular sport.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/art...occer_helmets/

[Just A Girl]

LMAO.
some Americans ar trying to make it so you cant play soccer without helmets now??
"puts american football pads in to perspective if they think soccer needs helmets lol"

Damn u guys are the bomb!

and i never wore shin pads in my. life although i used to play football for a team in the local area league.

You dont need shin pads to go in whole hertedly, You dont Think Oh i dont have shin pads i better not go in for this tackle.
Well atleast i dont.

and i still cant find the video you linked 2....

[Gawain of Orkeny]

and i still cant find the video you linked 2....

Then you need glasses


HERE

[Gawain of Orkeny]

and i never wore shin pads in my. life although i used to play football for a team in the local area league.

I suppose your proffessional teams dont wear then as well. Besides you just a girl

[Just A Girl]

I had to disable A few sequrity features for that video to work.
Should have told me it was embeded in the page lol, I was looking for a nother link.

Those hits arent any more impressive than rugby hits,

The illigal Spear tackle or high tacles in rugby, Can be compared to the most spectacular 1's here,
When they hapen to you in rugby...
(and dont think they dont cos they do)
You dont stand back up again and clap
"which is what the padding seems to allow your football players to do",
In Rugby Your gonna be down for a while,

And professional footballers (soccer players)
Are THE Wimpiest Bunch of Big girls You have EVER seen,
They dint use to be,
But these days they fall over at the drop of a hat,
They roll over like theyve been Shot in the head, Screaming in agony And rolling about,
Then you see the replay. And he wasnt even Touched,

Foot ball (soccer) can be compared to american football Becous the tacktical game is prety damn similar.
Both have Set pieces you practice over and over with an almost unlimited number of plays you can do
"although in soccer they dont get to talk it over for 20 mins in the middle of the game",
both have formations,
Both games tend to pass the ball back to allow players time to go forward before Launching the ball up the feild.

Soccer players Use more skill, But american football is more ruged,
oh and one of them use there feet not there hands.
And there both boring to watch.
"although some soccer games are good for the whole 90 mins"
so i guess you can compare football (soccer) and american football And i wouldnt be able to tell you which one is the better game,

But,
I dont think Any 1 will ever be able to tell me rugby isnt the best game ever.

And i find it hard to beleve that any one who watches both american football and rugby could prefer american football.
Although I can imagine it could be possible.

EDIT

Actualy I cant imagine it being possible.
I tired for a while.

And I cant see it happening.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

Mass. rocks!!!!!

When will they make everyone live in nice safe plastic bubbles?

[Just A Girl]

Mass. rocks!!!!!

When will they make everyone live in nice safe plastic bubbles?

When Massachusetts Rule the world....

[m52nickerson]

No doubt the rugby guys would win. Im sure theres plenty of skill and techniqe involved.

I doubt it, NFL players would be faster and stronger. I can't see many Rugby players taking down a NFL running back like Jerome Bettis, or Willis Mcgahee. Plus I don't see ANY Rugby player getting past a Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher.

[Just A Girl]

Well not if they had padding on....
But if there was no padding it would be a game worth watching.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Well not if they had padding on....
But if there was no padding it would be a game worth watching.

No padding would make them faster. Besides you have been claiming it makes no difference and that they hit just as hard without it. Some of you dont seem to realise that NFL players are world class atheletes in many sports. Most of all in track and field. They are as fast as you get and big and strong besides.

Are you now saying that they would give your rugby team a fight in their own sport? Again the best rugby players in the world would be lucky to make even one first down vs an NFL team.

[Just A Girl]

I doubt they Would Want to play American football... ...
compared to rugby. It just aint any good.

They probably would be able to do what you do and gain the distance "1st down," with a simple grubber kick or an up and under,
Rugby league guys would Easily get to your try line in 4 turns as thats how they usualy play any way, "that game sux 2"
Also you wouldnt get the time to talk over what ya gonna do next after you tackle them either,
Cos the game continues.
And of course No time outs and unlimited subs.
So you guys would prolly pass out after the 1st 40 mins of play,

Now....
"With the up and under kick 1 man makes the pass and catches the pass."
"with a grubber kick the ball is kicked like a foot ball (soccer ball) So it travels along the ground, whilst the player chaces it, he can continue to use grubber kicks untill he reaches your try line then fall on the ball To (Touch it down)"

So thats 2 ways 1 person can compleat 1 down on his own,
Rathere than Throw the ball Forward to a team mate which just ruins the game,

AS for the padding,
Only reason I dont want it there Is becous Its for Lil sissy girls.
Play with the pading and Tackles become useless.
If your scared of geting hurt, DONT PLAY THE GAME!.
"Personaly i like seeing a man Knocked out in the middle of the feild whilst the game carrys on around them"

Same for soccer, If you Think you need helmets to play safley.
DONT PLAY THE GAME!.

P.s

I tried to watch some aerican football the other day,

I managed to watch 1 play Which consisted of a man throwing the ball to his team mate
"was a decent enough throw"
Followed by his team mate crossing the line and making a silly lil dance and throwing the ball.
"NO TRY" or would be in a real game where people are allowed to stop you touching the ball down by holding the ball off the floor.

I then noticed That it dosent matter where you guys cross the try line. You always cick the conversion from the center.
In rugby if you want to get a nice easy conversion you must touch the ball down In the cenetr of the try area.
if you touch the ball down on the left side of the area.
Your cick will be more difficult as you must cick from the same distance but from the left hand side of the feild, Which greatly reduces possibllatys of you kicking the conversion if you make a slight mistake.

No wonder the Longest cick ever recorded was a rugby conversion,
Which was a whole 10 yards futhere than the longest ever american football kick,
Also the ball continued to travel after he scored the conversion. So 10yards futher is an understaement.

Any way.
Back to me watching american football.
After I watched them Pass forward,
Throw the ball on the floor,
and then get a conversion cick awarded in the nicest place possible...

I decided i could not watch anymore of it.
and changed over to
Gleison vs dreigion. playing Rugby union.
Or as there english names would literaly translate to:
Bruises vs dragons.

Was a much better game, Even Jonah Lomu was playing,
A verry nice suprize indeed.
He even scored a try.

Lots of turn overs and some 1 got knocked out as play carried on (prety much always happens)
It was also Highlights.
But the highlights lasted 70 mins lol.
So only 10mins of the game were concidered not to be worth watching.

Im shure that American football Higlights would Remove more than 10 mins from their higlights Just becous its so tedious.

Actualy in all honesty,
The only game I know That Plays almost 100% of the game in the highlights is rugby,

Even in foot ball (socer)
Out of the 90 mins played the highlights only last 5-15 mins.

And concidering Rugby games last 80mins,
And the games High lights lasted 70 mins....
You can easily see which game Is the most exiting to watch.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

They probably would be able to do what you do and gain the distance "1st down," with a simple grubber kick or an up and under,

You would of course have to play by the rules od football and this would be illegal a. Again I doubt they could gain more than 3 yards in four tries vs an NFL team and that would be through nothing but sheer athletic ability.

No wonder the Longest cick ever recorded was a rugby conversion,
Which was a whole 10 yards futhere than the longest ever american football kick,

And how long was that kick. I believe the NFL record is 63 yards.

I must say you remain totally cluless as to anything in football.

[Just A Girl]

Look it up Mf I already told you it was 10 yards futher than the longest Ever american football kick,
So do the maths.

And I was watching wales vs ierland repeats of when wales won the grand slam.
And
Wales made a 52 yard kick look Way to easy. and had plenty more on it after it scored.
(52 yards was impressive But Nothing compared to the longest kick)


Im a bit dissapointed in your argument,
As i have taken the time to compile a lot of data about american football, And have watched the game,

Seeing as you dont know as much about rugby as i know about american foot ball,
I feel as-though you should Try to Enlighten your self,

read this....

Rugby Facts

* Rugby started at the Rugby School, which is located in the town of Rugby, in the Midlands of England.

* On January 26, 1871, the Rugby Football Union (RFU) was formed.

* On March 27, 1871, the first international rugby match was played. Scotland beat England in Edinburgh by a goal and a "try to a try" (points were not set yet), and there were 20 players on each team (15 today).

* Prince William plays rugby for St. Andrews University in Scotland.

* Rugby is traditionally played for two 40-minute halves, on a football-sized field.

* There are more than 65,000 active rugby participants in the United States.

* There are more 1,400 rugby clubs in the United States.

* 79 percent of active players are between the age 18 and 34.

* The most popular club sport on American college campuses is rugby.

* A national champion is crowned every year at club (Division I, II, and III) collegiate, military, and high school levels.

* A world champion is crowned every four years.

Its from This web page here..
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...r/ai_111506457

This web page is cheifley american So most of the facts revolve around the USA.
And they tend to neglect facts from the rest of the world.
Still its a good place to start i guess.
It also contains facts about american football.
And soccer,

Note " The most popular club sport on American college campuses is rugby."

Your welcome to keep saying
"You dont know squat about american football"
if you like,
But every day I gain more knowlage about the game, I watch snipets of the game when i can bring my self to doing so. I read web pages with facts and stats on the game. And it still sux.

So say what you like,
but prety soon You wont have a leg to stand on unless you start learning about rugby.

[Redleg]

Look it up Mf I already told you it was 10 yards futher than the longest Ever football kick,
So do the maths.

Instead of tellin people go look it up in a such an offensive manner - why don't you provide a link. You might want to check your math (its do the math - not do the maths) - since your wrong - the longest Rugby kick for a score is significantly more then 10 yards greater then the longest kick for a field goal for American Football. And you might want to get your terms correct - many American football kickers kick farther then 63 yards - but that is the record for a scoring kick. You might want to see how many kickoff's are actually into the end zone from the 35 yard line. THe math for that is the kick is more then 65 yards.

The kick was measured at 81 yards by two students from Cambridge after the game, however, Ernie talking on TalkSport on Sunday, April 4, said he thinks the kick was actually longer than 81 yards, in that the measure was only to the nearest post and not in between the posts which is the traditional measure today. Using this method, the kick would have been closer to 90 yards which is the entire length of a rugby pitch.

http://www.planet-rugby.com/Teams/En...ry_35433.shtml

So even your math skills are questionable in this thread.

Then you might want to check out the longest punts which are also a kicking of the ball.

Yards Name Game when
98 Steve O'Neal NY Jets vs Denver (9/21/69)
94 Joe Lintzenich Chi Bears vs NYG (11/16/31)
93 Shawn McCarthy New England vs Buffalo (11/3/91)

[Ser Clegane]

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