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    The Basques pre_date the Celtic revolution and are none-indo European (that is culturally and linguistically as there is not enough evidence to substantiate an ethnical takeover), they fought constantly with celtic tribes and were one of Roma's fearcest enemies. They are quite possibly the most ancient people (culturally) in Europe.

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    They related in anyway to Celt-iberians?

    Also how come they are related by blood to the welsh and irish?

    Or are the welsh and irish not indo-european?
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    Well, correct me if I'm wrong but, weren't they the Vandals that were pushed down and so they had even landed in North Africa ? The most possible and rational route for a Roman era emmigrant tribe to reach N. Africa should be through Iberian peninsula and over Gibraltar, me thinks. Maybe any connection with Basques stand or come into those lands -if they were not the natives ?

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    AFAICT the Basques remained at where they started, though losing much territory through centuries of overlapping invasions and colonizations. They might be related to Iberians, if at all, not Celtiberians or afterwards.

    Vandal and Visigoth invasions are pretty modern stages in the history of Iberia, so to speak.
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    I don't think I'll have time to go in depth for you but I'd recommend Mark Kurlansky's "Basque History of the World: The Story of a Nation", it's an entertaining and easy read, good as an introduction to the subject.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/014...books&v=glance

    I can't remember if it's got a decent bibliography or not. If it does then you should be pointed in the right direction to find the more heavy duty, dry historical works.

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    This is worth a read too (more academic than the previous suggestion but not a vast weighty tome):
    "The Basques: Their Struggle for Independence"
    Ned Thomas (Foreword), Luis Nunez Astrain, Meic Stephens (Translator)

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...895663-5009261

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