We're going over the edge?
I think at times, this forum turns into a flame area for people to bash each other over politics...
The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'...
Maybe we should tone it down? You decide...
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When the debates continue long enough people usually understand each other better, and realize that there are only minor areas in which they disagree. I'm however not glad when debates end early, and both people look upon the other in fear over his political ideologies, who are in reality usually closer to the other part than it might seem at first.
I actually think the idea of discussing politics in written form has a huge potential, as there never becomes the same hate feeling as in a real life debate. People think through their answers better, and if they aren't controlled by prejudice learn new things about themselves by asking "why do I hold my opinion?". I've learnt much, and found it necessary to alter my opinions in several details as a result of discussions here. As long as the aim of the debate is to see possibilities of a solution that is true to all "whys", and not bashing over which opinion used at the start of the debate is better, then it can only be positive with these debates, I think.
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What the cr@p did you make that poll for?Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
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Certainly I don't like it when threads fall into flame wars, but the nature of politics does lead to heated debates. I think that we are, on the whole, OK.
"Look I’ve got my old pledge card a bit battered and crumpled we said we’d provide more turches churches teachers and we have I can remember when people used to say the Japanese are better than us the Germans are better than us the French are better than us well it’s great to be able to say we’re better than them I think Mr Kennedy well we all congratulate on his baby and the Tories are you remembering what I’m remembering boom and bust negative equity remember Mr Howard I mean are you thinking what I’m thinking I’m remembering it’s all a bit wonky isn’t it?"
-Wise words from John Prescott
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Cuz I wanted to...What the cr@p did you make that poll for?
Should have made a choice like that though...
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People come out and say this all the time about the backroom, but I've never seen it actually become a rude place for a month, then followed by a few civil weeks, then a flamefest for a couple days, then all of a sudden everyone breaks out their Emily Post guides.
There really isn't any fluctuation here. It's a forum where politics are allowed to be discussed, so they naturally dominate the conversation. Everyone knows politics are inherently stupid, so tit for tat and mild personal attacks at least keep them from being boring as well. If politics irritate you, just leave for a bit. I duck out for a week or so at a time fairly often and it helps me.
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Better safe than sorry.Should have made a choice like that though...
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
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No, they don't bother me, I just wanted to see what you guys think and from what I've seen you obviously think it's okay, so don't change anything!
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Well, it just made me think of the thread in the Watchtower where it's being discussed to close the br down for Christmas weekend. It doesn't bother me either way, since I'll be pretty busy with real life like most of us here, but what is it supposed to achieve? Do they expect people to show up on monday or tuesday with a much more clear headed and mature demeanor?
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No, they just don't want to be bothered with our pranks and flames when they themselves are busy IRL.Well, it just made me think of the thread in the Watchtower where it's being discussed to close the br down for Christmas weekend. It doesn't bother me either way, since I'll be pretty busy with real life like most of us here, but what is it supposed to achieve? Do they expect people to show up on monday or tuesday with a much more clear headed and mature demeanor?
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
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No, they just don't want to be bothered with our pranks and flames when they themselves are busy IRL.
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Poor BKS and Beirut. :/
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Way too answerless question for us - imperfect creatures.. I don't think we're going over the edge, at least moderation does not allow it to be that way, and the ones involved in such incidents take more careful steps afterwards.
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This forum is rather harmless compare to what you can find out on the net. The flame wars here are barely flame wars, just kids arguing...
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leave it as it is, this is a place to discuss policies and rarely erupts into anything more than a good debate, not hate...except for that one with lefteyenine and hellenes, turkey versus greece, if they had been in the same room someone mightan gotten choked.
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Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. —1 John 2:9
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Not at all, this is one of the most civil forums I've visited, any out of line comments are swiflty delt with by the mods and most threads that are geting out of hand are either closed or warned
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Where is it burning?? Always lots of talk about flaming, but I have missed it, apparently..
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lol - you can tell the new ones to the tavern.
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WHAAA I'M A N00Bz
A nation of sheep will beget a a government of wolves. Edward R. Murrow
Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. —1 John 2:9
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I dont see a problem, unless people are telling me in a nice sort of way that they dont want all my political threads.
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Re: We're going over the edge?
It's generally fairly civil, and certainly informative to me. I just dislike it when debates turn to the minutae or posts repeat themselves a little way down the line; wordgames are inherently boring, at least to me. But mostly people make at least some effort here to stay polite and try to understand each other, certainly more than in some forums I've visited.
Oh, topics seem to be limited to certain subjects, which tend to devolve to a common point. That's boring, and gets people fed up of explaining their views very early on in repeating topics which is usually when things get insulting. So, be original people!
Last edited by Geoffrey S; 12-22-2005 at 21:33.
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I need to express my sick & tired situation about that freakin' flame war (That can never progress to being better as long as it is that way) and that I'm generally pushed into such conflicts.....except for that one with lefteyenine and hellenes, turkey versus greece, if they had been in the same room someone mightan gotten choked.
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I'm with you LEN. And I also want to support political discussion in the Backroom for the sake of this world, discussion here is more productive than the UN at least (if any).
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LEN, it's okay! Scream in your pillow, hit your little brother! It's all part of life!
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So now youre advocating child abuseLEN, it's okay! Scream in your pillow, hit your little brother! It's all part of life!
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It's not child abuse if they're siblings in your room all the time! durr..
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I believe in the potential of written debate, in which the Backroom revolves around.
As a person who has some (few, but still...) experience in face-to-face debate, I understand very well the different natures of the Backroom and the spectacle of the face-to-face debate. In the former, I can often back down (and, by the Gods, I do that often...) or compromise like a Henry Clay without much trouble, and I also learn a lot of things. Indeed, I like the Backroom. I did went out silently (not one to favor an internet suicide thing...) many times when things get a little hot. But, trust me, other forums have it much worse.
A face-to-face debate, on the other hand, requires one to be violent, passionate, extremist in viewing, arrogant, uncompromising, and self-righteous. I cannot lose. You suck; I'm right, now shut up and cry that you're a loser.
Only when things get like this that I'm irritated about the Backroom. So...no, we're not going overboard. Remember, our discussion is viewed daily by major World Leaders, even Bush. :{I
Last edited by AntiochusIII; 12-24-2005 at 09:22.
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Actually not.. I came across with his nick "WorldConquest" under the list of "trying to login but never succeeded once"Remember, our discussion is viewed daily by major World Leaders, even Bush. :{I
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I like it.
People hammer points home.
People get caught in catch 22s
People have old posts come back to haunt them
People see how blurred and f888 up the whole left vs right/lib vs cons argument is, and that not everything is black and white
People realize they are wrong and admit it (well, some of us do)
And occasionally -- and i really mean occasionally -- people agree
Sometimes I think of this place and some of you ***holes and your retarded opinions while I'm driving, or sitting at grandmas, or while I'm talking to friends, and in all honesty thats a good thing. It's like sniffing pepper and clearing the sinuses, or taking a big **** after a jog. Its invigorating.
I like it just the way it is
language please.
Last edited by solypsist; 12-28-2005 at 02:06.
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