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**Teleklos Archelaou** · 12-27-2005, 20:24

Yeah, the taverns were one big one that somehow slipped through. Dunno why though - as it should have picked up the vanilla one. That's why we missed it - since it seemed like there was no reason to change it. But we must have deleted it somehow accidently.

A and C are in the lists of issues. B sounds like a good one to report, but we will need a little more information about when the game said this or what the situation was.

**Reenk Roink** · 12-27-2005, 20:26

I got that exact same "rewarded with triarii" message...

Lemme get a screenie.

EDIT: Here it is:

This is for Epirus, though I think I saw it in Macedonia, and it's probably for every faction...

**MeroFromVero** · 12-27-2005, 20:32

I got the Triarii thing playing as Baktria. It's in the faction summary scroll. In the victory condition section there it gives the standard 'you must rule Rome and control 50 provinces' thing, but it follows that with "You will be rewarded with a unit of Triarii."

**MeroFromVero** · 12-27-2005, 20:59

Also, I can see Ariminum. From Baktra.

It shows as an isolated little red dot on my mini-map, and the city is clearly there (with, as you know, a Seleucid flag) on the campaign map.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 12-27-2005, 21:08

There is a feature not many folks know about - but it's not on many factions yet:

We reveal the locations of cities that the faction would have obviously known about. We do it with spies and scripting, but it allows a more realistic situation. For example, the greeks (KH) would have known where many many cities were. But the start of the game makes it seem like they don't. But now, in EB, if you start up as KH, you will see those cities (though FOW has resettled over them) at least!

**Reenk Roink** · 12-27-2005, 22:36

Another small thing, It's not a bug, more of a suggestion, but I don't know where else to place it. You have Pyrrhus garissoned in Epidamnos, but wasn't he campaigning in Laconia in 272 BC?

Also, his oldest son Ptolemy is in Taras, although I have a source here that says that he stayed in Epirus while Pyrrhus went over to Magna Grecia to fight the Romans and that when Pyrrhus departed, he left his youngest Helenus with Milo:

http://hum.ucalgary.ca/wheckel/sources/ehk.pdf#search='pyrrhus'

(it's on Page 5, XVV3, #4)

Also Ptolemy would have been in Laconia with his father where he died, according to the above mentioned source and another I found:

http://bennieblount.org/Online/Ussher/86.htm

2810. While Pyrrhus besieged Sparta, a company of women led by Archidamia, defended it against him until the return of Areus from Crete. Acrotatus the son of Areus, valiantly drove Ptolemy the son of Pyrrhus back when he made an assault and would have broken into Sparta with 2000 Gauls and some select companies from Chaonia. Thereupon Pyrrhus, despaired of accomplishing anything and withdrew. He took the spoil of the country and planned to winter there.

2811. Now while the war was going on in Laconia, Antigonus recovered the cities of Macedonia and marched down with his army into Peloponese. He wanted to fight again with Pyrrhus for he knew if Pyrrhus succeeded there, he would return to continue the war in Macedonia. (Pausan. in Attic. p. 12.) When Pyrrhus was on his way to Argos, Areus the king attacked him from the rear. He then cut off some of the Gauls and Molossians which brought up the rear. Orasus of Crete, slew Ptolemy the son of Pyrrhus, who fought valiantly for his father. (Plutarch) When Pyrrhus saw his son's dead body, he said that this death happened to him not as soon as he feared it would or for his much rashness in actions deserved. (Justin. l. 25. c. 4.)

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 12-27-2005, 22:41

Pyrrhos was in lakonia in 272, but not for the whole year. He wouldn't have gone down right as the snow was clearing, but you are certainly right, he would have been heading down pretty soon. This part is left to the player though (if they want to make that decision - it was a pretty stupid one after all, and managed to bring two enemies together to help defeat him - the maks and spartans).

Getting the sons in the right places is important. We will take a look at that (sounds like the two sons just got switched) - and we actually want to press the Makedonians harder in early 272 in the north. For part of the year they actually lost Pella, but took it back pretty quickly. The Epeirotes need a bigger presence in Makedonia (maybe with a reduction of their Italian numbers).

You may note though that as the campaign progresses, that the Maks have a hard time under AI control. We don't want to totally smash them, but we haven't got the perfect balance worked out here.