How good is EB?!

**edyzmedieval** · 12-27-2005, 23:24

Eh, we waited very much for this mod.

How good is it?!

**Taliferno** · 12-27-2005, 23:37

*Double post sorry*

**Dayve** · 12-28-2005, 00:40

I'd say that this mod does for RTW what butter does for bread... It's absolutely wonderful... And i can only imagine what the finished product would be like... I remember when my honeymoon period with RTW wore off about 2 months after playing it... I started to jot down all the things i would do to it if i knew how, to make it my perfect strategy game... And EB has done everything i jotted down on that list and more... The unit skins are great, the cost of units i find is great, although some may disagree... Defeating a large enemy army now actually has an impact on your enemy... It will be a good few turns before he can raise another one as large as the last, and the same goes for you...

I also think the high cost and build time of buildings is wonderful... This coupled with the high cost of units means that it will be a long long time before you have money to burn, and even then it will be only a small surplus of money... Not the 2 million denarii you had spare in vanilla campaigns... Also losing a city actually matters now... You will put a lot of time and money into developing a city and it's population... To lose it then would be a blow... If not to your economy then simply because of the time and effort you put into building it up...

Generals traits are so much better than in vanilla and other mods it really is unbelievable... It's like you can get to know the character... All the personal information in his trait list and on some characters even a history of what they really did in the Roman empire in the time they existed... You can't just send any old family member to command an army... In vanilla you could simply find a family member, command stars or no command stars, stick him in an army and conquer 5 cities one after the other, retraining all your best soldiers as you go... Putting a crappy no command stars general in an army in the EB mod will likely have disasterous consequences, as i found out earlier when i lost 3 quarters of an army trying to take a city from some smelly barbarian rebels, some of who weren't even wearing underwear!

Navies... By god they're expensive and time consuming to build and upkeep, but just like armies and cities, a 'naval army' is now a valuable piece on the chess board...

I could go on i suppose but i only came here to post a basic error i had found in the game... And now i'm going to go back to conquering...

**ScionTheWorm** · 12-28-2005, 01:45

I've played on Very Hard/Very Hard with Casse and Getai now, and it has only been a world of hurt coming my way.

Massive agressive armies quickly forced me to find another way to play than the rtw/rtr agressive mode (which always worked before).

Reqruiting is so incredibly hard with the factions I've tried to play as. Actually I cannot imagine how to get established with any of these factions since their economy is going down. I just try to block the negative balance from my brain, and hope for a miracle.

and in addition, I feel like the AI is vastly improved. but that's probably just my imagination

awesome

**Dayve** · 12-28-2005, 01:58

Actually i feel that the AI is improved when i play... Especially in battles... Gone are the days (and mods) where you could win any battle and lose only one 7th of your army... If i fight against an enemy of similar numbers to mine then i take considerable casualties, sometimes so high that the army has to be brought back to the nearest capable city of retraining them... It's great fun i tell you, well worth the long wait.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 12-28-2005, 02:39

I'm wondering when folks will start posting about successful olympic competitors, about successfully breaking away from the Seleukids, about returning Alexandros' body to Pella, about successfully achieving triumphs, about having troubles maintaing good relations in Greece because of multiple factions continually breaking peace over Delphi or something else, about special traits they get for conquering a monument their ancestors had lost, about all these cool things that are hidden in here that folks still aren't even getting to yet!!!

**Taliferno** · 12-27-2005, 23:37

So good I'd sell my grandma for it.

**the_handsome_viking** · 12-30-2005, 23:20

in a few words, The Europa Barbarorum mod is like diving into a pool of historical facts and good wholesome fun.

Things like not being able to fight in certain seasons while playing as the Casse, and the inclusion of historical figures with their biographies and individual objectives, were just a wonderful thing to discover.

It might come over as a bit sad to say this but... the mod has actually made me feel a bit more connected to the land and the people that have existed on it throughout history, and I think in many ways thats one of the reasons why people are so attracted to history in general.

**jadam** · 12-31-2005, 00:35

I can only agree. THIS IS AWESOME! Congratulations!

But I had several crashes to desktop (randomly), I noticed that sometimes if i reloaded the game and turned the campaign script on later, then I could overcome these crashes, so there must be something in the campaign scripts. Do you guys have crashes as well, or is it something with my computer?

Thanks
Jadam

**bean_22** · 12-31-2005, 02:04

Hmm no crashes for me yet...about 20 years in.

Its amazing and so challenging especially on vh/vh. Good work EB!

**Dayve** · 12-31-2005, 02:25

I've had random CTD's... Always during Carthage and Seleucia's turns... Then when i reload (i've been saving at the start and at the end of each turn) the save i made just before hitting end turn and end the turn the game doesn't crash... So it's not just you no i've had a couple.

**edyzmedieval** · 12-31-2005, 16:39

Ok, you got me over.

I give up. You conquered me. I was very skeptical with the mod, I recognise. But since everyone says it's great, and you guys did a wonderful job with the historical research and graphics, I'll try the mod.

Hurray for the EB team.