How good is EB?!

**Dooz** · 12-28-2005, 03:07

Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou

I don't know that the load times will get faster. There are thousands of more lines of text added into various files - the huge amount of new text descriptions for buildings, units, and just about everything else just slows things down. All those new traits and the way they interact; the enormous scripts to get so many extra little things into the game; all of this stuff just slows things down some. It's a little slow for me, but I play with the -nm and -ne tags so I just pop over to mozilla while it's loading. And on the computer I'm currently using it flies by (but it's a pretty fast cpu).

What do the -nm and -ne tags do? And by popping over to mozilla, you mean the internet browser while the game loads?

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 12-28-2005, 03:11

Originally Posted by Wonderland

What do the -nm and -ne tags do? And by popping over to mozilla, you mean the internet browser while the game loads?

They cut off the movies (which slows you down a bit) and make it where you can alt-tab over to other windows more easily (I believe). Yeah, I jump over to browse in between turns. makes it harder to catch when CTD's occur though

**Dooz** · 12-28-2005, 03:13

I see, thanks

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**infierno** · 12-28-2005, 03:47

well i have a 1.7 512 ram 9600pro i think a gameboy could do bett... well no ;) but still is crap

i just realized that flank a unit and shot it by the back with skirmishers like velites has little impact... in large scale firing into the back an enemy unit engaged into melee with other of my troops kill like 2-3 guys per volley :/ at a range of 10 meters or less
i dont know but even the best phalanx troops enganged into melee cant handle a volley coming by the back...

the second thing is in a custom battle making a 1 unit of archers Vs 1 unit of archers; the enemy archers:
A) just melee me, they dont fire, just get closer to me under arrow rain
B) come closer to me, then fall back, then shot me 1 or 2 times, then rout

try the custom battle, use the default armys, and select the "desert" archers ( i dont know its name), they have long range and dress like desert ppl
test 2 or 3 battles and tell me

in the other hand, horse archers seems very clever

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 12-28-2005, 03:57

In my list of things above that I'm looking forward to players enjoying the most I almost forgot to mention the ethnicities. Some folks have mentioned that they really like the traits, but keep an eye out on ethnicities (some factions don't have them yet but most do). Some are fairly simple, but some are very complex. They don't always force a character to be a certain type of guy, but they do increase chances for certain trait or tempermant acquisition.

They're just another one of the amazing things the trait team has gotten into the open beta already at this stage.

**tk-421** · 12-28-2005, 05:48

This is the coolest mod ever! It is incredibly challenging. I am playing as Koinon Hellenon. I took Corinth by diplomacy and got a ceasefire with Macedon. A turn later a message popped up telling me to go to war with the Macedonians because they did something to Delphi. I actually lost a battle and now ultra-agressive Macedonian armies are attacking me and blockading my ports. This is so much fun. No CTDs yet, either.

**Chester** · 12-28-2005, 06:13

Prior to my CTD, the Sweboz campaign was probably one of the most rewarding games I've played.
The battles see more intellgient too, I love how archers stay in loose formation, running about firing at your flanks.

Calvary, imo, is perfected. They are not too slow or weak (rtr) but not over powered either. It's so well balanced, I tip my hat to the guy who is responsible for the stats.

If you're looking for a real challenge. I suggest Casse on VH/VH settings. I'm not even sure if it's possible to win! The rebels are VERY aggressive up there, attacking one settlement prompts all of the rebels to gang up on you.

PS- Those Saminite skins are brilliant!

**Thorn Is** · 12-29-2005, 01:13

Originally Posted by infierno

i just realized that flank a unit and shot it by the back with skirmishers like velites has little impact...

I noticed that too, but I was at the recieving end of it. I wasnt paying attention and I charged into the enemy's infantry with mine managing to let some peepsqueek rebel faction flank me with their peltists, and to my surprise my infantry came out with very little damage. I thought after a volley like that I would be in trouble...

I like how the battles play out in the beta

**Rilder** · 12-29-2005, 02:14

its a great mod, except for the fact that i cant understand any Building/unit names

SPEAK ENGLISH .... lol

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 12-29-2005, 03:33

Originally Posted by Thorn Is

I noticed that too, but I was at the recieving end of it. I wasnt paying attention and I charged into the enemy's infantry with mine managing to let some peepsqueek rebel faction flank me with their peltists, and to my surprise my infantry came out with very little damage. I thought after a volley like that I would be in trouble...

I like how the battles play out in the beta

I know sometimes the skirmishers seem weak, but...

It was a freak thing, but using one unit (no upgrades) unit of akontistai (those lowest level skirmishers) for the Maks, I totally annihilated in one volley (yes, that's right) an entire other unit that was at full strength. The thing was that they were close by but further up a hill, and exactly 90 degrees to the right of the advancing (about to be destroyed) unit. 240 javelins came raining down from close by and almost directly down upon this poor unit.

I'll not say what the other unit was, but I was absolutely shocked.

As I said, it was a freak thing.

**ScionTheWorm** · 12-29-2005, 03:41

do you regard the difficultysettings as right, that easy=easy, hard=hard and so on? and are there any unit size one should prefer to get the most out of it?

**Thorn Is** · 12-29-2005, 04:23

Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou

It was a freak thing, but using one unit (no upgrades) unit of akontistai (those lowest level skirmishers) for the Maks, I totally annihilated in one volley (yes, that's right) an entire other unit that was at full strength.

wow... that sounds great...
personaly I just fought one of the best battles ever.

Have to rank it in at least my top 5. I lost it, but it was a truely amazing experience. I find the battles go by very quickly. I have to pay attention all the time. In the vanilla i used to be able to check their infantry with mine and fight a second battle (ie against reinforcents or trying to get to the center of a city) but I find if I stop paying attention to one end of the battle things could get really bad really fast... lol