ROMANI: The MOST powerful and easy faction...

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 12-28-2005, 16:57

Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix

I played the Romani now. I agree that there are some easy grabs, but EB as Romani is still harder than VH/VH Numidia in RTW, so there's quite a challenge anyway. I'm starting to understand how the government system works now, and I like it a lot. As I've understood it, after conquering a province you can choose it to be one of 4 or so levels, with the level with smallest number enabling most own troop types and buildings? I've chosen level 1, total romanization, for all provinces conquered so far, but then I've only conquered 2 provinces yet so I haven't had much chance to experiment.

Good choice so far on the govts

. Take a look at Malrubius' roman gameplay guide if you want some tips or ideas. It only takes you a few turns into a campaign, but has some good stuff.

**jerby** · 12-28-2005, 17:54

the further you move away, the worse your gov. options get. iirc the romani can't build lvl 1(best) in , say, turkey...

**Dayve** · 12-28-2005, 18:11

I've also been building the most time consuming and expensive government in conquered provinces... I'll do this for the cities on the peninsula, then in cities close to the peninsula (within a certain circle i will think up) i will build type two which is like colonization i think... Then in the next circle i will build type three which is light Romanization, then in the cities on my outskirts i will build the one which basically means they can please themselves but will be paying taxes and supplying meager troops in times of need... So you see the further my empire expands the less Roman it will become until you get to the edge of my empire and it's basically just that cities old culture except they are governed by Rome...

**Rodion Romanovich** · 12-28-2005, 19:31

Gah, those gaesatae drive me mad! Attacking them with 4 or 5 principes and surrounding them doesn't even help - they end up routing my 4 or 5 units then they run after them and kill them all when they're running... In one city assault battle there was one gaesatae unit left in the town center, and 5 of my infantry units attacked it from different directions. After 2.30 minutes my units routed after having lost half their units, the only reason I won the battle was because I had kept a small cavalry unit in the town center for 3 minutes... Has anyone found out a good way of dealing with them yet? They seem pretty invulnerable to slingers despite their lack of armor...

**Ranika** · 12-28-2005, 19:37

Refer to this post on Gaesatae; https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...8&postcount=24

It takes a bit of creative use of javelins and cavalry to deal with them in the 'easiest' way. NEVER throw infantry at them, it's suicidal. Slings and arrows have too low lethality to damage them easily. Use javelins to soften them and then hit with what cavalry you have (playing as Romans, preferably mercenaries, because Roman cavalry sucks). Don't let them get close, either. If they charge your line, let your men fire at will, but don't charge them. Try instead to hit them with cavalry from the sides before they close. Done right, you should be able to push them back to the Gallic line at least. Never let them touch your infantry, they'll eat them alive; the unit also lowers infantry morale, hence why infantry is prone to rout when fighting them.

**Dayve** · 12-29-2005, 01:21

I still must disagree with the origional title of this thread... I own all of the Italian Peninsula now, as well as Patavium, Bononia and Sagesta (just west of Arretium, i forget what it's EB city name is), but i haven't yet taken Mediolanium... Also in Sicily i've just taken Messana, and i'm barely managing to upkeep 2 armies (both of which are fighting on two fronts, north and south) and build up my cities...

In all i'd say my overall forces (both armies and garrison units) consist of 8 hastati, 6 principes, 4 triarii, 4 rorarii, 3 slingers, 2 of those barbarian archers, 1 full strength unit of equittes, and about 15 leves which are being used as peace keeping forces in my cities...

Hardly spectacular, as you can see... On top of this, rebels are popping up everywhere, the last ones to pop up had 4 units of naked immortals, as i like to call them... FOUR! Do you know what these 4 units did to my northern army? They reduced it to half of its origional strength, that's what they did...

I can't afford a rebel killing army... I was going to make one out of Rorari and Accensi with a general but i can't even afford that, so i'm having to march my northern army through Italy, sweeping up rebels as they go... Leaving my northern cities exposed to smelly barbarians who could declare war at any time...

There's a massive rebel navy hanging around that keeps blocking my ports randomly every few turns... With two of the most basic Roman warships, the odds against that rebel fleet were 20-1 against me, so i would need two fully stacked fleets of basic warships to have an even fight, which i would then lose because i'm playing on hard campaign difficulty... So transporting men is out of the question.

So the Romans really aren't all that easy... Very difficult to play as actually... I'm having more fun playing as them than ever before with this game...

**hellenes** · 12-29-2005, 01:39

Originally Posted by Dayve

I still must disagree with the origional title of this thread... I own all of the Italian Peninsula now, as well as Patavium, Bononia and Sagesta (just west of Arretium, i forget what it's EB city name is), but i haven't yet taken Mediolanium... Also in Sicily i've just taken Messana, and i'm barely managing to upkeep 2 armies (both of which are fighting on two fronts, north and south) and build up my cities...

In all i'd say my overall forces (both armies and garrison units) consist of 8 hastati, 6 principes, 4 triarii, 4 rorarii, 3 slingers, 2 of those barbarian archers, 1 full strength unit of equittes, and about 15 leves which are being used as peace keeping forces in my cities...

Hardly spectacular, as you can see... On top of this, rebels are popping up everywhere, the last ones to pop up had 4 units of naked immortals, as i like to call them... FOUR! Do you know what these 4 units did to my northern army? They reduced it to half of its origional strength, that's what they did...

I can't afford a rebel killing army... I was going to make one out of Rorari and Accensi with a general but i can't even afford that, so i'm having to march my northern army through Italy, sweeping up rebels as they go... Leaving my northern cities exposed to smelly barbarians who could declare war at any time...

There's a massive rebel navy hanging around that keeps blocking my ports randomly every few turns... With two of the most basic Roman warships, the odds against that rebel fleet were 20-1 against me, so i would need two fully stacked fleets of basic warships to have an even fight, which i would then lose because i'm playing on hard campaign difficulty... So transporting men is out of the question.

So the Romans really aren't all that easy... Very difficult to play as actually... I'm having more fun playing as them than ever before with this game...

Now its quite sarcastic...
If I tie my hands behind my back...Cover my eyes...And operate the game using my nose and my tongue while reacting to sounds, even Egyptians in vanilla on easy/easy with a 1000000 denarii cheat are a challenge...
It personal choice of selecting varius levels of satisfactions and pain..myself I always try to accomplish what challenges are in front of me capitalising the tools that I have at my disposal...
And judging from their success in reality the Romans are quite historically powerful...

Hellenes