The Ethics of killing Big Foot...

[Devastatin Dave]

I'm fascinated by cryptozoology. Stuff like Big Foot, Ogo Pogo, etc. Now i was watching a documentary on Big Foot the other night on the Discovery Channel. There was this guy on there that is actively hunting Big Foot, not for pictures, film, or fecal samples, but to bust a cap in his ass and once and for all prove that this elusive animal exists.
I for one have a hard time believing the existence of this creature, but then again, mountain gorillas were only legend till there discovery 100 years ago.

So the question is this; Would the killing of Big Foot be ethical in order to prove its existence since photos and film will always be disputed? My opinion is no, but An animal such as this would be hard to capture alive. What do you think?

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

what about skunk apes?

Well, if you want to prove they exist then I guess there's nothing like a body to prove it, be it dead or alive.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Excellent thread title.

How about also "The Ethics of killing the Chupacabra..."?

[Ronin]

Excellent thread title.

How about also "The Ethics of killing the Chupacabra..."?

you don´t kill the chupacabra.....the chupacabra gets YOU!!!!

hell...the thing´s got a song named after it and everything...it kicks ass

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I am also very interested in cryptozoology. I have a great collection of books on the subject. I think we sticky a thread on the subject with pics and stuff, i'm sure i wouldn't be the only one interested. I hope so anyway

Would the killing of Big Foot be ethical in order to prove its existence since photos and film will always be disputed? My opinion is no, but An animal such as this would be hard to capture alive. What do you think?

I would love to say Bigfoot was around somewhere but i haven't seen one real piece of good evidence or photographic proof, although i heard there is a recent film of it filmed on the US/ Canadian border and it shows some good stuff but i haven't had a chance to see yet. Although i saw a great photo a few years back of a ape man like creature in the east somewhere shot by two American back packers, now that picture did look real and there have been stories of humanoid-creatures like that for centuries in Australia (Yowie), China (China), Russia (Alma), Southern Africa (Waterbobbejan or water Baboon), and the Yeti and Sasquatch in Tibet and Canada respectively.

My favourite story from the states was in the 1820's with a lumberjack type cutting in the woods and heard a commotion and saw a bigfoot like animal fighting with a Grizzly bear and drove it off after battering it with a piece of wood. It might be made up but it is one of the first tales of ape-man like creatures on that side of the pond.

I'd be deeply saddened if a creature like that was killed. I think if it is out there somewhere leave it where it is. Discovery does often more harm than good and the last thing i would like to see it being paraded on television like a circus animal. Anyway abit of myth and magic is good for the world and with different species being discovered everyday i don't see why this x creatures can't be out there somewhere, especially in un-explored regions say in the Congo or, the deep seas other areas as such.

If they have avoided man for so long lets hope they can continue to do so after all the Giant Squid has only recently been filmed in its natural habitat and that has taken to years to achieve.

[lars573]

Well it would take a dead body to prove Bigfoot real IMO. That's what it took to "prove" the existance of mountain Gorrillas and Urangutangs a century ago. In fact there is/was an expidition to Indonesia to try and photograph/capture a supposed Urangutang sub-specis that walks upright on 2 legs. But then you could run into the Playtapus problem. When dead specimens of Playtapus were sent back to Britain from Austrailia they were though to be fakes, made by a taxedermist. So they had to send a breeding pair back to show how real they were.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

is there an equivalent to Fortean Times in the U.S.A.

I really appreciate the fact that you guys (heh, us guys) get Coast to Coast each and every night.

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I think Fortean times is probably as popular over there as it is in Britain.

[Byzantine Mercenary]

there are some monestrys in tibet that are said to have specimins of dead yeti's i saw it on a televison show about the yeti, the problem is that they were mumified and they were only allowed to film them so nothing could be proved for sure

[Soulforged]

You can't kill the nothing.

[bmolsson]

How is somebody that is hunting Big Foot getting a gun license ???

[Major Robert Dump]

Pretty sure thats the guy from Oklahoma. I'll see if I can find the name of the town in eastern thats been getting a lot of press lately about bigfoot....people moving there to hunt it and people leaving there because they say they are being stalked and burglarized by bigfoot. Now theres a bigfoot festival started by the people who dont believe so they can make some profit from all the hoopla, half the town is really into it and the other half are pissed because they think people are belittling them for believing.

One peice of "evidence" was a furball that had yet to be identified and it was sent to a DNA lab or something, havent heard how that turned out yet lol

But to answer the question, no I wouldn't kill him I would take him alive. I could do it.

[English assassin]

No way should big foot be shot.

The Mongolian death worm, on the other hand, should be killed on sight.

[Papewaio]

So the idea is to prove the something lives you have to kill it first... is that an ironic idea?

[Devastatin Dave]

So the idea is to prove the something lives you have to kill it first... is that an ironic idea?

Sadly that is what it took for the Mountain Gorrilla along with many other species. In no way am I advocating the killing of this animal, in fact, like the Tazmanian Tiger, I do hope that the species lives and is never discovered, only glimpses and rare sightings. But at the same time, the preservasion of these species might be more attainable through the efforts of mankind. Such a delicate and almost hopeless situation...

[Papewaio]

Well here is some good news from the side of science...

[Extinct mammoth DNA decoded

Scientists have pieced together part of the genetic recipe of the extinct woolly mammoth.

The 5,000 DNA letters spell out a large chunk of the genetic code of its mitochondria, the structures in the cell that generate energy.

The research, published in the online edition of Nature, gives an insight into the elephant family tree.

Since the method works on samples down to 1/5th of a gram it is promising... maybe they will sequence the entire DNA of a mammoth... and then start breeding them in Canada... yum... mammoth steaks with maple syrup.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Sounds delicious, hopefully I'm close enough to Canada to not get price-gouged too badly....If not I could always hop the border, or dig a tunnel under the fence that'll be up by then.

[scooter_the_shooter]

How is somebody that is hunting Big Foot getting a gun license ???

You only need a license for a handgun in my state. And thats only if you buy from an FFL(federal firearms license) holder(a gun shop) Private transactions require only that you see the guys ID before you hand it to him.

And bigfoot has not been doing anything (if he is real) so what does it matter if he lives or dies? What will it change?

[Ja'chyra]

And bigfoot has not been doing anything (if he is real) so what does it matter if he lives or dies? What will it change?

And that's why guns should be regulated.

[Fragony]

How is somebody that is hunting Big Foot getting a gun license ???

Gold

[GoreBag]

Sounds delicious, hopefully I'm close enough to Canada to not get price-gouged too badly....If not I could always hop the border, or dig a tunnel under the fence that'll be up by then.

Nah, just come over. It's getting back into the US that's hard.

Well, for everyone's reference, I'm also fascinated by Bigfoot and the other abonimable snowmen of the world (not restricted to North America after all!). Some people have even gone as far as to theorise a relation to the extinct ape, Gigantopithicus.

Anyhoo. The Yeti at Occultopedia

Check around the site for the other giant ape-types. I really had no idea that the Sasquatch was such a common folk tale (or prevalent creature, as it were).

[ShadesWolf]

You would think in todays age with all the technology we have, we would have explored all regions of the globe.

We can spend £45m and crash beagle onto the martian surface, but we still havent explored all areas of the south pole and the oceans. Who knows what we might find if we spent a 1/4 of the space explorations budget on looking at our own planet.

The entirety of the Sphinx was finally dug out in 1925, to the great pleasure of its numerous visitors.

What else might be hidden under the north african desert.

[Byzantine Mercenary]

yeah, the deep sea, parts of the amazon, there are loads of unexplored places

[Viking]

A very little percentage of the landscapes below the seas are explored, but there`s much more to learn from space than our own Earth, still.

f you want to take money from something; do so from the military budgets. Completely wasted money; in the principle at least.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

I think it's wrong, unless the "cap in its ass" is a tranquilizer

But no killing