A modder's guide to CTDs

[Monkwarrior]

Don't think was mentioned specifically as point 2 there I think refers to regions file, but placing slave army that is sub_faction of a faction that isn't in descr_strat.txt causes CTD on scroll over.

(probably predictable that one and yes, I am having a bad day )

Not so predictable.
I found it by my own, but depending on the configuration of the mod you can solve it by putting the faction as "emergent by event" and non-playable in descr_strat and also in descr_sm_faction. Of course, that even doesn't exist.

[Makanyane]

Another one for the strange and irritating list:
descr_names.txt can only share the same list of names between 2 factions,

faction: lombardi, slavs

works but trying:

faction: lombardi, slavs, goths

to use same set for three factions results in errorless CTD if you try and use names for the third faction in descr_strat. Can obviously be got round by just copying the names section down and using for 1 or 2 factions at a time, but might be worth knowing if you're wondering why camp. map won't load and you fiddled with the names file....

[Red Spot]

does order come in account there Makanyane??

I mean looking at it I could understand the order;
lombardi, slavs, goths
crash

where;
goths, lombardi, slavs
might not ..


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[Makanyane]

It seemed to be just ignoring the third one whichever I made the third. When I've assigned the same set of names to two factions I haven't taken any notice of which order they were in. It shouldn't go on alphabetical listing anyway, only thing it could want to follow is the sm_factions order, but I've been re-arranging that anyway to get faction icons in right place in menus.

btw that reminds me - changing order of factions in descr_sm_factions and not deleting map.rwm causes 'random' CTD in campaign about half dozen turns in

[Red Spot]

ok, that sets you back on the first place of finding weird bugs ... :D

edit;
found an other fun thing;

when you edit EDU and remove the text the file starts with (the explanation of the stats) but leave at least 2* [enter] the game doesnt load giving a bit misleading error about it, saying its expecting a unit-type, just remove the [enter] and it will work again....


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[Seth Krn3ll]

Ok I'm having a CTD which is puzzling me: during custom battle, the precise istant when my modded wardogs reach the enemies, game CTD.

I made lots of Tests to get the point, and finally I think I get it: given I cannot mod the skeletons here (somehow the animation pack can't be unpacked by Vercis' Tool) I rely on existing skeletons for the new units.

'Cause Wargs are pretty bigger then dogs, I am using a horse skeleton (fs_fast_horse) for them. But seems that if I use a horse skeleton something crashes when wargs collides with enemies.

So, if I'm not wrong, heres my in-battle-CTD: game crashes (with no error messages) when wardogs using a horse skeleton collides with enemies.

(any hint to workaround that and have my wargs ready to gnaw elves and gondorians will be mostly appreciated)

[Squid]

You can unpack the animation using the IDX extrator by vercingitorix (different from the paks extrator).