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    Always Puppet Where Available... this will lower your TC, making it easier to supply your units that are off fighting distantly from your Capital. As Italy, the first thing I always do after conquering Egypt is to Puppet them. It takes a lot of Stress off of your back when you start pushing into Southern Africa.

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    As Italy, you probably want to annex Bulgaria since you want enough IC to have research team #5. It's only the less Industrially developed places you want to puppet, such as Ethiopia.

    Yugo is more your choice. Definitely take the coastal provinces that are your national ones, though, since they won't have partisans or 'occupied province' TC penalty I think.

    Gore: Air Cavalry is somewhere late on the Mech Inf line. Something branches off saying 'may lead to Air Cav Division'.

    By the way, what's the point of Cav divisions? They're slower than Mot/Mech infantry and fight worse. As Argentina, I have plenty of oil for those divisions anyway so it makes no difference really, and Semi-Mot Cav probably requires oil as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi
    Always Puppet Where Available... this will lower your TC, making it easier to supply your units that are off fighting distantly from your Capital. As Italy, the first thing I always do after conquering Egypt is to Puppet them. It takes a lot of Stress off of your back when you start pushing into Southern Africa.
    Bah. Just got totally pwned by Bulgaria. Dammit, I knew I needed more troops! I'm probably going to have to wait another twelve months - what a bore! Except that by that time Bulgaria will probably have more troops too...

    Greece is starting to look just a little too tough - maybe it's time I tried one of the majors.

    BTW - I think you really need the IC from annexation until you get your five research slots, don't you?
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    Whoa.. I just ate Greece up myself at 1939, with my starting divisions plus one tank division. That's it. BTW, if GREECE is too tough, why try a major power? Seems illogical.

    Anyone have the numbers for the research slots? All I know is that 80+ gets you 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius
    Whoa.. I just ate Greece up myself at 1939, with my starting divisions plus one tank division. That's it. BTW, if GREECE is too tough, why try a major power? Seems illogical.
    I believe that he means that he thinks he should play as one of the major powers... like SU, Germany, US, Britain or Japan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius
    Whoa.. I just ate Greece up myself at 1939, with my starting divisions plus one tank division. That's it. BTW, if GREECE is too tough, why try a major power? Seems illogical.

    Anyone have the numbers for the research slots? All I know is that 80+ gets you 5.
    I'm playing Greece, not trying to conquer it!

    Five is the maximum number of research slots. You don't get any more than that, no matter how many IC you have. I believe the numbers are 0-19 IC = 1 research slot, 20-39 = 2, 40-59 = 3, 60-79 = 4, 80+ = 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius
    Gore: Air Cavalry is somewhere late on the Mech Inf line. Something branches off saying 'may lead to Air Cav Division'.
    The Mechanized infantry line branches off, allowing you to research Armoured Cavalry, which then allows the Air Cavalry Secret Project. They are a cavalry upgrade.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius
    By the way, what's the point of Cav divisions? They're slower than Mot/Mech infantry and fight worse. As Argentina, I have plenty of oil for those divisions anyway so it makes no difference really, and Semi-Mot Cav probably requires oil as well.
    Cavalry requires less oil in general that mechanized or motorized divisions. I generally use them as an addition to garrisons. Three cavalry divisions with Armoured Vehicle attachments are stationed in each of my occupation zones (namely, France, England, Leningrad, Stalingrad, Moscow and Poland). They come in handy in defeating the partisans, and can, in a pinch, be used as a reserve for your forces).

    That said, Nuclear carriers rock ... I just got four with Germany. No oil requirement, massive range, stats are slightly worse than a modern carrier, but hell, the range makes it worth it (and I'm going through oil like you wouldn't believe).

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    Wheeheehee!

    I thought I'd restart my Greek campaign to see if I could do a bit better. At the start of the game I checked out every nation to see what might be attackable and what they had. I found out Bulgaria only starts out with 9 divisions to Greece's 14, so I thought, what the heck? Let's declare war on them right away just to see what happens.

    So I got my divisions in position, and declared war. Then all hell broke loose! Germany declared war on me. Then the UK, France and all their allies declared war on Germany. Then the Soviet Union declared war on me too! Then the UK, France and their allies declared war on the SU! Then the SU declared war on Turkey. Then Italy declared war on the SU!

    The whole of Europe is at war and it's only a few days into 1936. And all because of naughty little Greece, heehee!

    Currently, my war against Bulgaria is going well. Meanwhile, there's a big buildup on the French/German border, the French have reinforced Turkey, allied shipping and aircraft are in the Black Sea, and the SU just lost their first attempt to attack Turkey. Be interesting to see how this one develops...

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    Can Air cavalry fly? Or is it just a cavalry upgrade?

    EDIT: Thanks screwtype. I suppose it's time to annex Bolivia for research slot #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius
    Can Air cavalry fly? Or is it just a cavalry upgrade?
    No, they can't fly, they act just like your normal cavalry/infanty/ground division.

    They're fast, though, and have good enough stats. However, they come in too late in the game to make a serious impact, as by that time, you'll either have lost, or have enough experienced and advanced troops to not need the Air Cavalry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by screwtype
    Wheeheehee!

    I thought I'd restart my Greek campaign to see if I could do a bit better. At the start of the game I checked out every nation to see what might be attackable and what they had. I found out Bulgaria only starts out with 9 divisions to Greece's 14, so I thought, what the heck? Let's declare war on them right away just to see what happens.

    So I got my divisions in position, and declared war. Then all hell broke loose! Germany declared war on me. Then the UK, France and all their allies declared war on Germany. Then the Soviet Union declared war on me too! Then the UK, France and their allies declared war on the SU! Then the SU declared war on Turkey. Then Italy declared war on the SU!

    The whole of Europe is at war and it's only a few days into 1936. And all because of naughty little Greece, heehee!

    Currently, my war against Bulgaria is going well. Meanwhile, there's a big buildup on the French/German border, the French have reinforced Turkey, allied shipping and aircraft are in the Black Sea, and the SU just lost their first attempt to attack Turkey. Be interesting to see how this one develops...
    If you don't join the allies now, you're buggered.

    Sucks that Bulgaria knocked you around. I have two suggestions to counter that. The first would be to fight a defensive war in hilly/mountainous Greece and to make use of your fortifications already in place. Once you have a reasonably static war going on, bomb them with TAC's after using a concentrated attack to dislodge them. I used this attrition tactic often in my campaign as Italy, and it works quite well unless you're overhwhelmingly outnumbered. However, your limited IC would make bombers a luxury...buy a couple from someone?

    The second would be to enlist aid. Turkey's too isolationist to help you, and Italy would rather annex you than lift a finger in your defense....how were your relations with Romania, Yugoslaiva and Spain?

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    This was a great read. Anyone from the org read Virgiltchicken's AAR with Czechoslovakia? I know Antiochus has. Interestingly enough, his location is Ann Arbor, MI.

    Anyway, it's a very colourful (literally) campaign, which starts off with the rejection of German demands of Sudetenland. Czechoslovakia then proceeds to join the Allies, and carves out a new world order. Czechoslovakia single-handedly takes out Hitler, saves Poland, and then with the help of the FRG and a few assorted GB+FR divisions takes down the whole of the SU. The Balkans are dealt with by Czechs and Frenchmen, who actually annexed Spain, Portugal, Bulgaria, Greece and Italy. The campaign seemingly ends with a new Czech-Slovak led resurrected Austro-Hungarian empire, with the port of Konigsberg. Plenty of puppets are created and liberated, and the whole of Europe is liberated and put under French control or released from Czech control (apart from austria and hungary of course). The UN are seemingly victorious, but now the Japs decide to do a Pearl Harbour, and are being destroyed like the other tyrants. Leftist democracies rule the world, Czechoslovakia is the dominant land power, and I cannot load the last 2 pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by screwtype
    Wheeheehee!

    I thought I'd restart my Greek campaign to see if I could do a bit better. At the start of the game I checked out every nation to see what might be attackable and what they had. I found out Bulgaria only starts out with 9 divisions to Greece's 14, so I thought, what the heck? Let's declare war on them right away just to see what happens.

    So I got my divisions in position, and declared war. Then all hell broke loose! Germany declared war on me. Then the UK, France and all their allies declared war on Germany. Then the Soviet Union declared war on me too! Then the UK, France and their allies declared war on the SU! Then the SU declared war on Turkey. Then Italy declared war on the SU!

    The whole of Europe is at war and it's only a few days into 1936. And all because of naughty little Greece, heehee!

    Currently, my war against Bulgaria is going well. Meanwhile, there's a big buildup on the French/German border, the French have reinforced Turkey, allied shipping and aircraft are in the Black Sea, and the SU just lost their first attempt to attack Turkey. Be interesting to see how this one develops...
    That is one brilliant sounding war! Keep us updated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoreBag
    If you don't join the allies now, you're buggered.

    Sucks that Bulgaria knocked you around. I have two suggestions to counter that. The first would be to fight a defensive war in hilly/mountainous Greece and to make use of your fortifications already in place. Once you have a reasonably static war going on, bomb them with TAC's after using a concentrated attack to dislodge them. I used this attrition tactic often in my campaign as Italy, and it works quite well unless you're overhwhelmingly outnumbered. However, your limited IC would make bombers a luxury...buy a couple from someone?

    The second would be to enlist aid. Turkey's too isolationist to help you, and Italy would rather annex you than lift a finger in your defense....how were your relations with Romania, Yugoslaiva and Spain?
    No, I got knocked around by Bulgaria in the previous game. In this one, I completely conquered Bulgaria in the space of a few turns. It just cost me war with Germany and the SU to do it

    I'm now planning to conquer Albania before Italy gets to it. But I have very few divisions and after annexing Bulgaria, have a big problem with partisans there. I also joined the Allies as soon as I got the chance, when the UK offered it to me.

    But the biggest problem now is that, as usual, the Germans have just smacked the French again. It's really ridiculous how badly nerfed the French are in this game! No way should Germany just walk over them as early as 1936. So I've already lost a major ally and now I'm the only allied country left on the continent! - so I'm afraid the Germans will be making me the next priority - *gulp*.

    The only thing that's stopping them ATM is that there are neutral countries between us - Yugoslavia and Romania, but if Romania goes to the Axis I'm in big trouble. I can't see Turkey holding out for a great length of time against the SU either, so really, I'm in a lot of hot water.

    I'm just hoping that because it's still only early 1936, that Germany and the SU will not be in too much of a hurry to crush my little upstart Balkan Empire. I'm hoping they will be more interested in building up their own power first. But I'm thinking that maybe I should attack Republican or Nationalist Spain so that I can survive the possible conquest of my home country...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius
    This was a great read. Anyone from the org read Virgiltchicken's AAR with Czechoslovakia? I know Antiochus has. Interestingly enough, his location is Ann Arbor, MI.
    ICE is Virgilt!?!?!

    *shock*

    I'm still there sometimes, but I lost my password and kind of went on anonymous lurk mode...

    How far is his campaign by now? By the time I "left" the Russians were falling apart.

    There are, though, a lot of incredibly awesome AARs of the same style if you're interested. I recommend a certain Hungarian AAR with a big name I cannot pronounce (you probably won't miss it, it starts with "A Magyar..." and is a huge thread) which is often touted as a gameplay classic of the first rank; and when I left my absolute favorite that was still running was a Brazilian AAR "The Cobras Are Smoking" (or something along those lines), which displays an aptitude for both gameplay and storytelling -- Brazil saving the world!

    I'll probably contact them for password help once I get the game back from my brother, who borrowed it.

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    They just released Nat China, and the USSR is long gone. Replaced by lots of now liberated ex-puppets. As usual, he starts out with numerical disadvantage... then the encirclements just wipe out half of the Japanese army or something
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    An update on my German campaign. It is now 1941, Wilhelm II is the glorious Kaiser of the German Empire which has turned "Paternal Autocrat" (this was as close as it gets to "Absolute Monarchy" which is the one I was going for...) and I have 2 very capable armies lead by skill 6 Field Marshalls, one just finished the conquest of Yugoslavia, and the other just completed Operation Zealion. The only trouble with Zealion is that the Americans have landed 27, yes, 27 divisions on the island just north of the coast of Scotland, while I have 10 of my own divisions with arillery, AT, and AA sitting on the other side. So neither side can produce a decent landing, and I can't seem to destroy enough transports to cut the supply chain.

    Italy is still refusing to join the Axis, I managed to have Nat Spain, Portugal, Vichy France, Japan, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia, Argentina, Croatia and Greece in my alliance.

    The SU is at war with Italy and the Allies, and leaves me alone for the moment, I am planning to Invade Sweden as I already have Finland, and then Denmark which is still neutral and has a fairly decent relationship with me (ah, well, no hard feelings, wrong place at the wrong time...). Italy is also tempting seeing as they are at war with Greece, I already have my Yugoslavian army in the Area, and I need their N. African posessions to hit Suez...

    Diplomatically I am still trying to get Lebanon and Syria to join the Axis, even if to keep the brits distracted in Iraq, although they have less than 50 ICs left. The great enemy is the US now, with 346 IC to my 340. Argentina has annexed PAraguay and Uruguay, and I'm thinking of giving them something else to do by hitting Chile...

    One question though: How in hell do paratrooper landings work? I managed to do it once to capture Danzig, but it doesn't seem to give me the option anymore. When I right-click a province having a loaded plane selected it just gives me the "None" option! I did not spend months researching and building them for that!


    Anyway, cheers!
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    On the Paras:
    There are two reasons for that. One is range and/or weather, these can prevent you from performing a proper airborne assault.

    The second, and more common one, is Organization. The Org rating of the transport aircraft has to be full for the option to become avaible. Unloading Paratroopers will drop their Org to near zero, rebasing drops Org partially. With time and supplies, Org will refill and you can perform airborne landings.

    I love those things, nothing beats a nice 12 division airborne assault with 8 divisions of Marines unloading at the same time, under the barrage of 7 CVs and 6 BBs. Guaranteed beachead.

    I might get to posting screenies of my empire and perhaps even a limited AAR, where might I be able to do that?

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    http://www.heartsofiron2.com/

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    Right gentlemen, I dont know how many of you have tried this yet, but I have just transfered (exported) my Vicki revolutions save game into Hoi2:Domesday (and it works) and continued the game.

    Its quite a strange world, lets see where this leads me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keba
    On the Paras:
    There are two reasons for that. One is range and/or weather, these can prevent you from performing a proper airborne assault.

    The second, and more common one, is Organization. The Org rating of the transport aircraft has to be full for the option to become avaible. Unloading Paratroopers will drop their Org to near zero, rebasing drops Org partially. With time and supplies, Org will refill and you can perform airborne landings.

    I love those things, nothing beats a nice 12 division airborne assault with 8 divisions of Marines unloading at the same time, under the barrage of 7 CVs and 6 BBs. Guaranteed beachead.

    I might get to posting screenies of my empire and perhaps even a limited AAR, where might I be able to do that?

    Hmm... You might be right, I didn't check the weather.... I'll try it now with my operations in the Middle East.

    Small update: July 1942

    Syria and Lebanon have joined the Axis and kicked the Allies out of Suez and are making steady progress into Iraq supported by von Kleist and his 24 divisions of elite armour and mechanised infantry. Persia is on the verge of accepting a military access treaty so I can hit India, Afganistan has also joined the Axis although it isn't much of an ally with its 6 cavalry divisions....

    Vichy have annexed Italy, but not before I liberated the Socialist Republic of Italy (i.e. Vichy got italian Africa), and is about to annex France (only Libreville is left of the VP), I have taken Sweden and Norway, and my fleet is now powerful enough to destroy the yanks in a head-on clash with 4 CVs and 3 BB plus another 17 vessels. Sadly my subs have been destroyed in a semi-suicidal mission to patrol the american east coast. There is no real need for a second fleet, except a couple of submarime ones because the Mediterranean is an Axis lake, and Vichy's fleet and the bombers of Japan, Romania, Syria, Lebanon, Spain, Bulgaria, Sweden, Vichy and Greece make (very) short work of whatever the allies have left floating behind.


    The plan now is an operation I like to call Fall Yankee, which begins by me taking Iceland and Greenland, Panama, and whatever central american states don't fancy my panzers going through their territory and then hitting the US of A from both Canada and Mexico with 4 fast moving armies I have already prepared for this purpose. All going well, the operation should be ready for 1944. I am hoping for some japanese support too, but it is hard to tell - they seem a bit stagnant lately since the Philippines DoWed on them.

    In Europe there are few independent nations left: Denmark, Turkey, Switzerland, amazingly Lithuania and Belgium (Yes, the french were so bad I just ploughed through the Maginot Line). All the others are either puppets or allies. I was thinking of hitting Turkey, but prefer to keep a buffer between my weak allies and the SU, and the same goes for Lithuania. Amazingly though, despite me grabbing all of Poland the SU has not DoWed me yet, although they are at war with the Allies and Panama? (yes, Panama is in the Allies this time around....)
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    I'm reading peoples update on their campaign, so i'll share my latest.

    I'm playing as Hungary. My goal is to create a major power out of it, to help Germany. I'll build only infantry, and research only Infantry tech and the Industrials one. Right from the start, i ask to join Germany Alliance. Wooot ! In febuary 36, Hungary declare war on Romania. It ignate the Balkans. Italy, Yuguslavia, Greece and Poland, all declared war on the Germano-Hungarian Alliance. At the end of 38, they are all annexed, the only exception being Italy, now a puppet of Hungary. The Allies have not move yet. The next target is Bulgaria. Once the Hungarian hegemonia is completed over the region, we will begin our Crusade against Bolchevism.

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    SM: How did you defeat the Scandinavians without touching Denmark?

    UaH: As Hungary, you should take Austria and proclaim the rebirth of the Austro-Hungarian state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius
    SM: How did you defeat the Scandinavians without touching Denmark?

    UaH: As Hungary, you should take Austria and proclaim the rebirth of the Austro-Hungarian state.
    Well, I DoWed Finland when the SU got the Winter war, and then from Finland invaded Sweden with the help of a my brand new marine force, and from Sweden simply walked into the 2 VP provinces in Norway.

    Denmark is the next step, but I need Iceland and Greenland, so I can't go the historical route....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius
    UaH: As Hungary, you should take Austria and proclaim the rebirth of the Austro-Hungarian state.
    He might be a little late for that now, since it's already 1938. Then again, the Anschluss doesn't fire if Germany's at war, so it is possible.

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    Well i annexed Austria by mid 38. At the end of 38 we were at war with Russia. All went too easily, Moscow was captured mid 39, and the Bitter Peace event hit the fan. It totally scrap it for me. I had russian provinces from south of moscow to Stalingrad, the german covering the northern half. But the friggin Bitter event gave all those provinces to Germany. It kinda ruin it for me. I didnt replay it since....

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    I'm out of ideas for a cool campaign. Someone give me a faction and a way to play it! (I'll take the best response and update for you guys).
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    Communist China. Attack Xibei San Ma with your Mountain Divs on offensive supply and annex it before the X'ian incident. If you manage to do it before it you're in for a good start. Your next target should be Sinkiang, followed by Tibet and Yunnan. After that you already have a good powerbase. Move from there to invade and annex Guangxi Clique. After that you should be all set for the Japanese.
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    Recreate the Spanish empire as either Spanish faction.
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    Rule Iberia under a Portuguese banner.

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