Fighting the Gaesatae

[paullus]

you know, i will say that the buns on the gaesatae are the most amusing part: when you finally route them and the ones killed routing end up face down, so you have a hundred round buttocks poking up in the air. Cracks me up (no pun intended...well, ok, it was intended).

[Ludens]

If you ask me, this is a lot of wishful thinking. The gaesatae were usually pretty easily slaughtered most of the time. I cant actually find a single account of them turning a battle, or doing anything but making a lot of noise and throwing thier lives away.

Anyway wanna solidfy this myth for me?

The only time I know that the Gaesatae messed up badly was the battle of Telamon, where they tried to intimidate the Roman velites. However, the velites held their nerve and pelted them with javelins.

However, I have to admit I know very little about Gaesatae victories as well.

[PSYCHO V]

you know, i will say that the buns on the gaesatae are the most amusing part: when you finally route them and the ones killed routing end up face down, so you have a hundred round buttocks poking up in the air. Cracks me up (no pun intended...well, ok, it was intended).

[Dux Corvanus]

In fact, I offered my penis to pose as a model, but it didn't qualify: it is always ready for battle.


So they had to do with these recently cold-water showered guys... not threatening at all.

[paullus]

Now I see why Dux' title is "Egomaniac Sexpert"

[Trithemius]

I've been struggling to find a use for my triari - too slow to suit my still of play and certainly too slow to be be a counter to cavalry - but now I may have found one.

Better make sure all the gaesatae-using nations have been swept under the rug before you get too reformed then (although I suppose you'd have to be trying deliberately in order to fail to do this).

[Reverend Joe]

In fact, I offered my penis to pose as a model, but it didn't qualify: it is always ready for battle.

Way too much information.

[jerby]

The only time I know that the Gaesatae messed up badly was the battle of Telamon, where they tried to intimidate the Roman velites. However, the velites held their nerve and pelted them with javelins.

However, I have to admit I know very little about Gaesatae victories as well.

the morale of this story:
don't mess with the man who has a pointy stick when your bits are hanging out...

[David_VI]

I've only experianced the Gaesatae once so far, when I first tried EB, first attempt as Casse..

I outnumbered them and it was the last settlement left as the Arverni.

They just slaughtered me, the units they were fighting ran, then the next unit next to them ran, then the next, a chain reaction of routing :( So a crushing loss.

Over 2000 dead :| in a roughly 3000 army V one much smaller!

[PSYCHO V]

The Gaesatae aren’t really that tough. They are great troops early but many later troops can go toe to toe with them. Besides, they are quite prone to missile fire ...as per history ...as when one runs around, parading naked.

If able, pin them with an armoured phalanx type unit and then get your light troops to shower them with missiles. The Gaesatae will get wasted whilst your own troops weather the storm. The Greco-Macedonian factions have been chopping up whole units of my Gaesatae using this tactic.

If you don't have a phalanx, the next best method is avoid melee altogether. They like to get up and personal, don't give them the chance. Again, shower them with missiles.

Failing all the above, rush them from the sides and rear. They will rout eventually.

Good luck.

my2bob

[toxicseagull]

im experiancing them quite a lot, usually at least 2 units in a arverni army with bronze upgrades and 1/2 experiance as the casse.

i pin them with calawre's (i have 2/3 in a army just to deal with these gits after a horrifying bridge battle with my army being mala thingys and bolothras (sp) i got pwned by 2 units of evil naked men) and relised chariots are my friends (i disgarded them before from RTR/RTW) and give a moral bonus/scare infantry. and when the rest of my army has taken out the enemy, i gather round :)

[toxicseagull]

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[hsimoorb]

I am just starting a war with the arveni. They've united gaul, and untill now I've ignored them. Now they have all kinds of stacks running around with plenty of gaesatae to go around. I am holding them just outside of massalia right now, it've very common for one unit of gaesatae to go though all 5 of my hastati, 4 of my pricipes, and still ave the juice to fight my triarri when I try to hold the on a bridge. Bloody gauls! Though I still would not say they're overpowered. It's a good challenge fighting them. Otherwise I'd be mopping up gaul right now. It's just nice that SOMEBODY in the world can manage to break my first line once in a while!

[orwell]

Beyond the fact that I didn't install the patch on the battlefield so their always naked, I rather like them. I pinned a single unit down with 3 units of triarii, after a assualt by principe, a light snack, and they ate the triarii too. There may have been a small chance of winning but by the time they were each down to about 12 on normal settings a unit of something with javelins showed up. Its so nice to lose a well fought battle once in a while, only autoresolve could screw something up in RTR most of the time.

[vizigothe]

I personally like the Gaesatae. I have had many a harrowing battle with them. The worst was when I was trying to push throw the open gates of a city to take the city and the AI was smart and snuck 2 units of the Gaesatae out through another door and was able to charge into the rear of my army. I was devasated and ended up losing that battle.

[Xanthippus]

I just empty all of my ranged ammunition on them and it will wittle down their health. Then they get close enough to run into a wall of pikes or have a wall of javelins thrown at them, and it usually does the job.

[Moros]

I just empty all of my ranged ammunition on them and it will wittle down their health. Then they get close enough to run into a wall of pikes or have a wall of javelins thrown at them, and it usually does the job.

yup that's how I do it and how it shuld be done IMO. every time I face them I get scared think "oh no what will happen" but after every batttle I think "are they getting weaker evry battle?". I guess they've got a cold, that's what you get when you walk around naked it the snow.

[Xanthippus]

I guess they've got a cold, that's what you get when you walk around naked it the snow.

Yea, that and other things... I do agree that they get easier every battle, I guess you just have to get used to them, they annihalated my infantry the first few battles.

[Avicenna]

What would the KH or Makedonians be doing all the way over at Gaul? I'd understand why they would fight the Getai.. but the Gauls really are nowhere near them and are of no interest to them.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

It's possible for some coastal Hellenic cities to "join up" and ally with the KH - even those at Massilia and Emporion. They could run into them there. But also I've seen the Gauls make their way down into the Balkans a few times (though it doesn't happen often).

[Simmons]

What would the KH or Makedonians be doing all the way over at Gaul? I'd understand why they would fight the Getai.. but the Gauls really are nowhere near them and are of no interest to them.

Even the Seleukids can fight them you just have to make your way to Ankyra.

[Orb]

I fought a few units in Ankyra as Hayasdan.

According to a friend who plays Casse, you can just run chariots through the Gaesatae to rout them. Haven't checked yet.

[Avicenna]

If they're the monsters everyone's saying they are, the chariots are probably going to be ripped to bits just like everything else.

[Moros]

If they're the monsters everyone's saying they are, the chariots are probably going to be ripped to bits just like everything else.

Never listen to something everybody says. How more people claim something to be true how further from the truth it usually is.

[iberus_generalis]

killing this guys is extremely easy...Get an army with 5units of triarii...make them screen your forces...thaem..get two units, one on each side of the bar of triarii..then sweep them off the field with a glourious flanking!! easy and clean cuz the triarii don't even sweat it against this guys..as soon as any unit(even Elefants) get into the Dead Zone of my triarii..i have the battle won...i use the manipular tactic, altered so that it can be used a little like the Hellenic Hammer and Anvil tactic..some times i rather improvise and kill the gaesatae with cavalry from behind, although i dont fancy getting enemies from the rear..there's no real glory in that..just slaughter...

[Simmons]

killing this guys is extremely easy...Get an army with 5units of triarii...make them screen your forces...thaem..get two units, one on each side of the bar of triarii..then sweep them off the field with a glourious flanking!! easy and clean cuz the triarii don't even sweat it against this guys..as soon as any unit(even Elefants) get into the Dead Zone of my triarii..i have the battle won...i use the manipular tactic, altered so that it can be used a little like the Hellenic Hammer and Anvil tactic..some times i rather improvise and kill the gaesatae with cavalry from behind, although i dont fancy getting enemies from the rear..there's no real glory in that..just slaughter...

Just so you know early triarii are overpowered and will have lower stats in the next built there just a little to invulnerable

[Kralizec]

If the early triarii still use the RTW phalanx in the next build, it won't make that much of a difference though.

What would the KH or Makedonians be doing all the way over at Gaul? I'd understand why they would fight the Getai.. but the Gauls really are nowhere near them and are of no interest to them.

Yes they are, remember the Galatians?
There's a unit of them in the rebel town Tylis. In the last campaign I played I watched the Getai repeatedly send huge stacks towards it that got beaten every time. By the time I gave it a try there were just 5 naked men left with silver chevrons, and they got annihalated by my slingers in a few volleys. Autocalcing would probably have been disastrous though, especially since I played on VH difficulty.

[Simmons]

If the early triarii still use the RTW phalanx in the next build, it won't make that much of a difference though.

Actually should they be in that formation I would have though they would use the new overhand animation.

The Triarii still continue to fight like the classical hoplite of the 5th and 4th century BC Etruscan Roman armies

[Geoffrey S]

Yes they are, remember the Galatians?
There's a unit of them in the rebel town Tylis. In the last campaign I played I watched the Getai repeatedly send huge stacks towards it that got beaten every time. By the time I gave it a try there were just 5 naked men left with silver chevrons, and they got annihalated by my slingers in a few volleys. Autocalcing would probably have been disastrous though, especially since I played on VH difficulty.

Heh. Playing as Makedonia I besieged Tylis, they had tons of Gaesatae which was worrying. Then along came a relieving force of some peltasts and taxeis hoplites, which attacked my force. Gaesatae reinforcements never turned up and captured Tylis without a fight. One hell of an anti-climax, it'd have been the first time I'd faced them.

Anyway to prevent this bug from happening again? Does it help to switch the unlimited men on battlefield preference to TRUE?

[NeoSpartan]

I haven't faced the Gaesatae yet, BUT I have used to a great effect.

BUT a general pit if your fighting a stonger infantry than yours, especially if your playing VH/VH or H/H: ALWAYS fight on the HIGH GROUND and if your a Barbarian fight in THE BUSHES (or at least try).