Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
What may I ask is wrong with Leviathan by thomas hobbes? It is a read everyone should have to do.some of his ideas on the nation were inspired.
Mainly it is the Ye Olde Englishe that fills me with dread, as well as the thickness of the book.

Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
Leviathan from a purely philosophical standpoint has so many problems. I took a philosophy course that touched on it at University a couple of years ago and the largest issue boils down to his natural state where he assumes two things:
1) All people are relatively equal
2) The strong will prey on the weak
These two things are not at all philosophically coherent and then the conclusions that he draws from them are bizarre. One that leaps to mind is "We need a strong state that has the right to censor whatever it wants" without proving the underlying basis for censorship. Large logical leaps such as this are replete throughout the text.
Which is particularly ironic, since his book was banned..