Why I hate Britain under Blair...

**Tribesman** · 01-02-2006, 12:14

Still it could be worse, he could have bought and read Socialist Worker just to get the 'right' information.
No , Vanguard has the "right" information , Socialist Worker has the "left" , read both for balance

**InsaneApache** · 01-02-2006, 12:27

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Still it could be worse, he could have bought and read Socialist Worker just to get the 'right' information.
No , Vanguard has the "right" information , Socialist Worker has the "left" , read both for balance

ha ha ha very good, such sophistry taking advantage of a poorly (that's hungover) man.

**ah_dut** · 01-02-2006, 13:54

Lentonius calm down a bit...or just switch off the capslock...it's not comfortable reading for my eyes

Ok, onto the actual debate

A country where to fly a flag in a racist manner is looked on as wrong - and I am proud of that. You may want a nation where to be racist is great, I don't. Flying our country's flag is never looked on as wrong or anything similar, but when it is hijacked and used as a racist tool, it is looked down on. I am quite glad we don't accept it.

Yes, I agree with you. It's just that sometimes people get done for putting up the flag...when it's not used in a racist manner. A similar deal with nativity scenes which are apparantly offensive to (some) muslims

Blame that on Thatcher - who you seemingly think is a demi God - she is the one who stripped back investment and ran our NHS down. I think you should look at the figures since Labour have been in power on results from our hospitals, you might shut up spouting such bollocks.

We also have record breaking numbers of administrators in hospitals

Let's just say I'm all in favour of investment (I don't pay for it yet) but it has to go to the right places. At the moment I believe it doesn't. Most of my family works/has worked for the NHS (well the ones in England anyway)

Maybe I am being incredibly old fashioned, but I don't think the idea of everyone taking justice into their own hands and killing, shooting, beating others on their own choosing is a good basis for justice in this country. It is quite right that if someone kills an intruder in their home they are prosecuted, I would not expect a burglar who kills an innocent to be let free, nor would I expect the same to be done for someone who shoots two teenager burglars in the back while they are running away.

I know and accept we shouldn't really go round doing on the spot executions of burglars, that's positively idiotic. I also know and understand that the average burglar is hardly about to go round killing every living thing in the hosue with a flamethrower.

But put it this way, if your hosue gets burgled (sp?) do you just sit there and let him steal all your hard earned stuff? Even if you do phone the police etcetc and he gets prosecuted, you've lost money/stuff because some person has decided to steal it off you. I'm not saying shoot him with a taser then torture him with thumbscrews by any means but you get the picture. You have to look at it from both sides of the coin.

BTW: in this situation I'd probably go back to sleep because if I confronted the burglar I'd probably get knifed

**JAG** · 01-02-2006, 16:31

Lent - I understand you are new here so you probably don't understand that pretty much most people here think that typing with caps lock on is rather rude.

I can't really respond to your rant, because I am not in the business of deciphering them, feel free to post again.

IA - of course the govt has money of it's own, if you live in a society which has taxes you have to accept that fact.

Shades - yet another Mail story eh? I don't think many people take much notice of the Mail and I am not one of them.

We also have record breaking numbers of administrators in hospitals

The current system was set up by... Yep it's Thatcher. She changed the structure of management in the NHS to what it is currently. Most of the problems with the NHS and society can be traced directly back to her.

**ShadesWolf** · 01-02-2006, 17:10

We also have record breaking numbers of administrators in hospitals

The current system was set up by... Yep it's Thatcher. She changed the structure of management in the NHS to what it is currently. Most of the problems with the NHS and society can be traced directly back to her.

When did we start talking about the NHS? Am I going mad

yet another Mail story eh? I don't think many people take much notice of the Mail and I am not one of them.

Yep people dont like the truth, it goes against the Labour spin machine. I thought the mail had the second largest readership figures behind the sun

More people read the 'Daily Record' than the 'Guardian', what does that tell you about peoples interpretation about its contents. Only the Independant, FT and Racing post have less readers

**BDC** · 01-02-2006, 17:14

I'm quite happy with Britain's gun laws. I'd rather the guy who wants to mug me just punches me and runs off rather than shooting me then running off.

Anyway just be so tempting next time you see a group of idiots in pyjamas outside McDonalds.

**Red Peasant** · 01-02-2006, 19:21

You're wasting your breath JAG, the org is gun-nut country, all KKK and flag masturbators.

Anyway, I think taxes should be a lot higher, like in those nice, well-run Nordic countries.