Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Radier do you think the Celts didnt pay taxes to their Kings? We pay becouse a long time a go in the African Savannah apemen were living in a pacs.We live in a society,becouse together we are stronger.
I am not talking about taxes in general, just the money we pay for others to help them. And I don't care wether it is better or worse for the society, it is the forcing I really can't understand.

I know that together we are stronger, but what if I refuse to pay for a sick girl. Shall I then be put into prison? H**l no, it's my money and I shall decide if that shall help others or not.

Ok listen to this: Now the majority forces the minority to pay wether they want to or not. Does that mean me and some friends can just rob a guy, because we are the majority?

Us:"Hey Steve give us your money now, or else... We shall do good thing for them."
Steve: "But it's my money!"
Us: "So?"

Is that how you want it to work?

Quote Originally Posted by English assassin
Well, yes, I do think that. If payment was voluntary them some people would indeed choose not to pay (just as (fewer) people choose not to pay for things even when payment is compulsory). Hard hearted people would then free ride on kind people, why would that be any fairer?

Also, I don't see why this is slavery. After all, sweden is a democracy, if you don't like it you can vote against it. If enough swedes agree with you you can have it your way.
Well I am only 17, so I can't vote.

Your fist sentence saiys it all! You do believe that a majority won't pay for others, why in gods name shall we force them? Isn't forcing no one more fair than forcing a minority? Just because a majority in the southern states in US was pro-slavery doesn't make it right.
If we, the swedes, vote for extermination of yews, is that right?

In a liberal society everyone is free and are not slaves under the government. No one is stopping people from getting together and work as communists or socialists. Everyone is free to do whatever they want with their money. That is the most fair alternative...