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    Yet again I have an exam tomorrow and I have no idea on a particular latin chart.
    Here it is:

    LW --------------- Mood ----- Tense----- Person ----- Definition.
    Spectavistis
    Ducunt
    Duxi
    Defendimus
    Sumus
    Ierunt
    Existi
    Possum
    Reliquerent

    Any help is appreciated.
    Thanks,
    Hiji
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    I'm able to translate these....though in Dutch.


    I can try and help though :

    Spectavistis --> you ( plurar ) saw, were looking at.
    Ducunt --> they are leading, commanding
    Duxi --> I led , I commanded
    Defendimus --> we are defending
    Sumus --> we are.
    Ierunt --> they are going ( doing so as we speak...)
    Existi --> you are ....
    Possum --> I can.
    Reliquerent --> ....

    Hiji, hope this helps...

    I might be able to help If you gave an example of 1 form fully written ( ie. give the mood tense etc. of sumus. )

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    I have the form of spectalum, but thats it

    LW----------Mood--------------Tense--------Person
    Spectalum-- Indicitive ----- Imperfect----- 1st person singular.
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    Too much work you lazy sod! Maybe one each.

    Relinquerent:
    Subjunctive (Active)
    Imperfect
    Third Person Plural
    They might leave behind

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    it's a conjunctiv ( conjuctivus ), only wrong thing you posted RP - though me latin is getting a bit rusty ...

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    Why not use the Perseus Word Study Tool? (though you should be able to decline verbs yourself, latin is easy;))

    For starters, here's the entry for "ducunt"
    http://perseus.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/c...fwordcount%3D1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
    it's a conjunctiv ( conjuctivus ), only wrong thing you posted RP - though me latin is getting a bit rusty ...

    Hmm....conjunctives/conjunctions may have a different meaning in Dutch , I don't know, but (hey, a conjunction!) in English they are 'joining words', linking clauses and such. They are nothing to do with verbs.

    Relinquerent is in the subjunctive mood, indicating a possibility, hence 'might'. In Latin it is easy to spot because it is formed from the infinitive, here relinquere, and, in this case, the ending for the third person plural nt.

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    You 're both right, it's Conjunctivus and Subjunctivus. They're both referring to the form used in subordinate clauses.
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    Relinquerent is in the subjunctive mood, indicating a possibility, hence 'might'. In Latin it is easy to spot because it is formed from the infinitive, here relinquere, and, in this case, the ending for the third person plural nt.
    I meant this, though you did a good job explaining - was thinking explaining it myself, though finding the corresponding englis words would have been hard and confusing, so I let it be.


    You 're both right, it's Conjunctivus and Subjunctivus. They're both referring to the form used in subordinate clauses.
    Good to hear

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    Hurrah! Well, the guy has a choice of Anglo or Dutch/Continental classical terminology, what more can he ask for!?
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    hear hear !

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    This is pretty funny. I went in early to get it cleared up to find that all the moods were indicative and all the tenses were imperfect except for one.
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    Then, relinquerent should read relinquent in your original list to be indicative, and this is future, indicative active (they will leave behind). Did you write it down correctly? Most of the others are easily recognizable, but I assumed that you had mis-spelled this one as reliquerent. Typos can really screw up Latin!
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    Spectavistis was the one not in imperfect, no? This appears to me to be the perfect of specto, spectare.
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    That's the perfect one. And yes, it looks like it should be relinquerent. I'll echo Red Peasant,
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