Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

  1. #1
    A very, very Senior Member Adrian II's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    9,748

    Default New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    NewScientist.com has an interesting article about US Department of Defense proposal to develop a lie detector that can be used without the subject knowing they are being assessed.

    Yet another (secret) surveillance gadget to be added to an already staggeringly powerful state apparatus. And yet another machine that adds to the massive intelligence data overload that -- more often than not -- obscures possible threats and targets rather than highlight them.

    It won't be long before the system beats itself, so we don't have to.
    The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott

  2. #2
    Clan Clan InsaneApache's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Grand Duchy of Yorkshire
    Posts
    8,636

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    I hope the wife don't find out about this!!!!
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

  3. #3
    Enlightened Despot Member Vladimir's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    In ur nun, causing a bloody schism!
    Posts
    7,906

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    So how is this different from looking someone in the eye and examining their physical expressions? Secret surveillance gadget indeed.


    Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    How do you motivate your employees? Waterboarding, of course.
    Ik hou van ferme grieten en dikke pinten
    Down with dried flowers!
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



  4. #4
    agitated Member master of the puppets's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    where destruction lay around me from a fight i could not win
    Posts
    1,224

    Talking Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    hmm, maybe if it is as good as it stated then we will not have to persue the tortureing issue...
    A nation of sheep will beget a a government of wolves. Edward R. Murrow

    Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. —1 John 2:9

  5. #5
    Clan Clan InsaneApache's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Grand Duchy of Yorkshire
    Posts
    8,636

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    Quote Originally Posted by master of the puppets
    hmm, maybe if it is as good as it stated then we will not have to persue the tortureing issue...
    Like I said...

    Just keep it schtum from the Mrs.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

  6. #6
    Lord of the House Flies Member Al Khalifah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    The Golden Caliphate
    Posts
    1,644

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    Maybe its been invented so there's a point to the questions you get asked at the airport.

    Airline Woman: OK sir and do you have any offensive objects such as knives, firearms or explosives about your person or in your hand luggage?
    You: No.
    *beep* *beep* *beep*
    Airline Woman: Just a minute sir, would you mind stepping into the room there behind that large mirror.

    17 FBI operatives beat you into a bloody pulp and send you on a plane to Algeria to the care of Dr X.
    Cowardice is to run from the fear;
    Bravery is not to never feel the fear.
    Bravery is to be terrified as hell;
    But to hold the line anyway.

  7. #7
    Clan Clan InsaneApache's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Grand Duchy of Yorkshire
    Posts
    8,636

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    and they say you get nothing in life for free.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

  8. #8
    Senior Member Senior Member Reenk Roink's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    4,353

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    Shhhh...it's a secret

  9. #9
    The very model of a modern Moderator Xiahou's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    in the cloud.
    Posts
    9,007

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    So how is this different from looking someone in the eye and examining their physical expressions?
    It's not. There are trained experts who, no doubt, are better at detecting lies than even a standard polygraph, let alone a remote one- which doesnt exist yet, I might add.
    Secret surveillance gadget indeed.
    Indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    I hope the wife don't find out about this!!!!
    My wife already has one Im afraid.
    Last edited by Xiahou; 01-06-2006 at 22:14.
    "Don't believe everything you read online."
    -Abraham Lincoln

  10. #10
    Praefectus Fabrum Senior Member Anime BlackJack Champion, Flash Poker Champion, Word Up Champion, Shape Game Champion, Snake Shooter Champion, Fishwater Challenge Champion, Rocket Racer MX Champion, Jukebox Hero Champion, My House Is Bigger Than Your House Champion, Funky Pong Champion, Cutie Quake Champion, Fling The Cow Champion, Tiger Punch Champion, Virus Champion, Solitaire Champion, Worm Race Champion, Rope Walker Champion, Penguin Pass Champion, Skate Park Champion, Watch Out Champion, Lawn Pac Champion, Weapons Of Mass Destruction Champion, Skate Boarder Champion, Lane Bowling Champion, Bugz Champion, Makai Grand Prix 2 Champion, White Van Man Champion, Parachute Panic Champion, BlackJack Champion, Stans Ski Jumping Champion, Smaugs Treasure Champion, Sofa Longjump Champion Seamus Fermanagh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Latibulm mali regis in muris.
    Posts
    11,454

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    Will it still work if I extend my tin-foil hat to include a face mask?
    "The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman

    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken

  11. #11
    Enlightened Despot Member Vladimir's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    In ur nun, causing a bloody schism!
    Posts
    7,906

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
    Will it still work if I extend my tin-foil hat to include a face mask?
    Hilarious! Especially in the Total War context.


    Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    How do you motivate your employees? Waterboarding, of course.
    Ik hou van ferme grieten en dikke pinten
    Down with dried flowers!
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



  12. #12
    Humanist Senior Member A.Saturnus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Aachen
    Posts
    5,181

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    ...to spot signs of stress that might mark someone out as a terrorist or suicide bomber.
    Yeah, 'being a suicide bomber: a main source of stress'.

  13. #13
    A very, very Senior Member Adrian II's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    9,748

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
    Will it still work if I extend my tin-foil hat to include a face mask?
    You would have to wear the old Backroom Moderator suit Gregoshi gave me, a.k.a. the Full Tinfoil Jacket. The suit allows you to survive for a year in any environment that is poor in oxygen, human emotions and/or brain activity.

    The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott

  14. #14
    Scandinavian and loving it Member Lazul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Thule
    Posts
    1,323

    Default Re: New, 'remote' lie detector planned

    couldnt we use this new gadget on politicans when they are talking to the press... now that would be fun. All the reporters chuckleing and laughing screamin; Lier! Lier! Lier!.... ah that one was true... Lier! Lier!
    www.overspun.com

    "Freedom without opportunity is a devil's gift."
    --Noam Chomsky

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO