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    Default General Calvary are too Powerful

    I guess the topic says it all.

    I've had armies of phalanx routed by general's bodygaurd. The are impervious to the Phalanx. They are slow to die and it seems that they scare away ground infantry.

    Is this intentional?

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    Default Re: General Calvary are too Powerful

    On H/H, playing as the Ptolemaioi, I've routed a huge, 52-man, Seleucid family member's bodyguards with a single unit of pezhetairoi.

    Using the default formation the mod gives you makes your phalanx ranks too thin, methinks. With a unit size of 120 for pezhetairoi, I set my men to 8 or more ranks deep, depending on my need for frontage. The general's bodyguard will inevitable push it's way through the front ranks, but if your phalanx is deep enough, he'll just be surrounded by more spearpoints. Too shallow, and he can push right through and disrupt the integrity of the phalanx.
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    Default Re: General Calvary are too Powerful

    How do you deepen your rank?

    I'm playing vh/vh. Bodyguards are very powerful. I think it might have to do with the AI general's suicidial attacks. Inorder to make them last longer, they've been given more stats.

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    Question Re: General Calvary are too Powerful

    Can't help getting the impression from my experiences and others' feedback that bodyguard units are not created equal. Personally I haven't found them overpowered, but my campaign experience is limited to northern Europe. Playing through custom battles though, there do seem to be some noticable differences - some bodyguards, like Carthaginians, feel very powerful, while others like the Pontic general feel kind of underpowered.

    I think the fact that some bodyguard units have 2 HP and others have only 1 might have something to do with this.

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    Default Re: General Calvary are too Powerful

    Well I actually think the Generals Bodyguards are just about right. They might be damn strong, but when facing a proper spear unit, they will usually start dropping rather quickly. The real reason why they might appear overpowered is due to the fact that they often tend to be silver or gold chevroned, but even they they're hardly unstoppable.
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    Default Re: General Calvary are too Powerful

    There's no doubt, the 2-HP bodyguard are tough buggers.

    @Chester:
    When you select a unit, left-click anywhere on the battlefield ground and drag; you should see a formation of arrows indicating which direction the men in that unit will face. They'll be in a rectangular formation; so shortening their front will increase their depth.

    Now, I don't actually count how many ranks deep, just kind of eyeball it. I play the game to watch the fun battles, not count how many ranks deep my phalantagies are. ;)
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    Default Re: General Calvary are too Powerful

    Well, in my experience Pontic bodyguards are weak if you compare them with Hetairoi but even these guys don't seem to be overpowered, playing Pontos I can say that I was able to rout them with Pantodapoi Phalangitai who are not an elite unit...they are very strong but not invicible that's the point of bodyguard...


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    Default Re: General Calvary are too Powerful

    Pontic generals have only 1 hp compared with most other mounted generals that have 2 hp.

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