Geting the Idea?

[Just A Girl]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=59292

ShambleS ,your approach obviously isn't working yet it seems you are unwilling to change your ways or means in order to make it work. Redleg has given you some good advice if you wish to pursue the communications route, but you have discounted it from the get-go. If the Way is blocked, find another Way instead of just by repeating the same failed methods. Situations such as yours come up 2-3 times a year and too often they follow the same patterns - so much so I wonder if there is a manual for it somewhere on the internet. The gist of it is that in these cases, it is the patron that must change and they must realize that it is they that must change. If they don't recognize they did anything wrong, they are bound to repeat the same mistake again. That is most likely why you aren't getting a reply to your PMs. To your credit, you at least appear to recognize half your mistake.

As I recall, what started you down the road you are on is not what happened to you, but what didn't happen to others - a double standard to your way of thinking. After all you have been through, you are still on that road pointing out where others have done things that you were punished for. It is not a road that will lead you to Org Nirvana. What you really need to do is be concerned for your own behaviour only. Forget about what other patrons are doing. Follow the forum rules and be a good patron. If another patron breaks a rule, whether they are punished or not, be satisfied to know that at least you don't do that. Just because others break a rule doesn't make it okay to break it. Understand that and be happy you are being a good patron.

Please take this advice in the spirit in which it is offered

Thanx for the advice,
but i think il just keep asking till something is done,

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I mean seriously.
theres no reason given for closing the thread.
you dont mention anything about the matter.
And you expect it to just go away.


----EDITED THIS BIT AS IT WAS PURE SARCASM----.

This is Acceptable language, Guaranteed acceptable in the front room, As thats where Beirut usualy resides.

I dunno Why I bother.
You guys got ya little tin foil hats on and your all trenched up,
I mean really How hard would it have been to say

"We will look in to the matter"
or
"We have decided he is in breich of no rules"

What ever The situation may be,

I have a feeling that the answer your refusing to give is
"We dont care"

Yet you prefer this charade.

[Strike For The South]

Hey Gregoshi is more respectable than youll ever be. You are acting like a little kid and Im sick of your stuff. You can leave or shutup but people come here to have a nice time not to see a damn crybaby complian about an internet fourm

[Mongoose]

I Think Shabmles was flaming Beirut, not Gregoshi.

[Drisos]

I Think Shabmles was flaming Beirut, not Gregoshi.

quite right! nah.. not his mistake, he never reads something anyway. someone should've said 'trolls: shambles is complaining about beirut, not gregoshi'.

[Ja'chyra]

Ignore list is your friend, I found it last night and guess who was the first one on it

[TosaInu]

Hello Just A Girl:

An important condition of your continued posting privileges here was that you stay out of the Frontroom forum.

If you have observed that condition, how is it that you can cite observed forum rules violations in the frontroom?

[Drisos]

Ignore list is your friend, I found it last night and guess who was the first one on it

Hey thanks for the reminder!

hmmm in order to keep the list to a few people, I will ignore the last part of your post...

[Gregoshi]

ShambleS, you obviously have an axe to grind with Beirut, unfortunately he's the one with the axe.

Ahem, seriously, this is precisely the wrong way to go about it ShambleS. Is it so hard to keep the snide remarks and sarcasm out of your posts? If you want to complain about a mod breaking forum rules, you shouldn't break a few forum rules in lodging your complaint. The situation will only get worse if you continue down this low road you've chosen. I and a few others have tried to help you come to grips with your situation but you seem unwilling - "yeah, but..." is always your reply.

If it is a matter of principle to you, why can't you extend those same principles to your treatment of Beirut? Your conduct towards him has been much worse than any complaint you have about his conduct - at least in the public eye which is the only valid verifiable evidence available.

Since you don't need/want any more help, I'll bow out of this unfortunate episode.

Edit: thanks for the support sfts, but please don't get yourself in hot water doing so. Civility always! Remember that and you'll go far. Beside, mongoose is right - the comments were directed at Beirut so we need to mentally replace my name with "Beirut" in sfts' post.

[Mongoose]

Why is this thread even being kept open? this is the third time the same content was posted. If a mod chooses to close a thread, then it should stay closed. If you want it re-opened, then PM either the mod who closed it or an admin. This forum is not a democracy- if Tosa Inu wants a thread closed, then it's going to stay closed.

[Beirut]

The rules have been posted over and over and over in the Frontroom: The use of the stars to hide profanity is allowed as long as only the stars are used. No partial words or misspellings. Only the stars.

Obviously this rule is looked at on a case by case basis. Directed comments such as "**** you!" are most certainly not allowed.

Since the post in question used only the stars and was in the Frontroom, and since the Frontroom allows the use of the stars, the complaint filed by the user of the Just a Girl account is meaningless.

Reading the rules is advisable prior to complaning about them.

[Ludens]

Im not harassing him [1] Im just keeping an eye on him, [2]

1) In addition to TosaInu's proof, your own words contradict that, as you wrote a few lines above that you would continue to pursue and expose him.
2) Again, this is neither your job, nor your right after what you have done. You have violantly abused him and are still abusing him in these threads. He may not have been 100% correct in how he treated you, but it phales compared to how you treated him.

You say that Beirut breaks the rules, but your offenses have been worse than any of his you have presented so far. Again, you may have obeyed the letter of the agreement, but you ignored the spirit. So, please stop trying to convince us he is an hypocrite and start trying to convince us you aren't trolling.

[Just A Girl]

Why do you guys close n re open this thing?

I dont really need to Prove anything.
I Reported to Him what seemed like a beich of rules,
he decided he was better off being awkward than to answer with a simple.
"typing ***** in the front room does not violate forum rules"

Now had he have decided to simply answer the initial pm in a manner befiting a mod,
There would be no thread, And I wouldnt be accused of trolling.
So I dont see how Reporting what i deem to be rule infringments. Is trolling

Neither do i see how Ignoring my statements and restating that i have no right to complain is at all relivant to this thread.

The last thing that was said afaik was tosasaying beirut didnt Make a new account with my email adress,
And me asking How did he know to send a pm there Before I knew the account existed.

And here i see More irelivant text that has nothing to do with the matter at hand But as always Trys to encapsulate Any and all incidents.

I dont see what i have to prove,
I never denyed anything i did,
I dont hide behind fake smiles and 1 Line replys.
I dont act difrent in a pm to what i do in public.

Althoug I see that Obviously beirut Denys making an account using my Email.
And yet He knew it existed befor i did.
I think its Pitifull when some 1 cant admit something.

[TosaInu]

The last thing that was said afaik was tosasaying beirut didnt Make a new account with my email adress,
And me asking How did he know to send a pm there Before I knew the account existed.

And here i see More irelivant text that has nothing to do with the matter at hand But as always Trys to encapsulate Any and all incidents.

Althoug I see that Obviously beirut Denys making an account using my Email.
And yet He knew it existed befor i did.

This was said:

Board database investigation and confession, showed it was not Beirut.

Beirut did not deny anything as I did not ask him about that.


Around 10-19-2005, new accounts were created by ShambleS, part of a slander campaign about nothing.

New accounts are displayed at the frontpage, until a new one is created. ShambleS is very aware of this fact. Many accounts were created using a fake e-mail.
-a to further slander Beirut.
-b the accounts were not made to post in the forums, but to deface the site.

Some person, but not Beirut, some person who is also an user on this board, saw several accounts, to slander Beirut, created by ShambleS, and also created accounts.

I know who did that, it was not Beirut, it was not ShambleS. Those hands are slapped and all accounts that were inappropriate are changed to Incompatible Account X as soon as spotted by me. There were about 5 when this started, there are over 20 now.

If he did not create the account How did he know I would be forced to use it before Even I knew The account had been made.?

Someone created an account and the activation e-mail was delivered at Shogun_tourniment@hotmail.com.

An account is created by another, with an unknown password. You happen to have the e-mail, so you did request a password reset.

Normally, this is using an account created by someone else and so account hacking. Good to make my blood boil and ban.

I think its Pitifull when some 1 cant admit something.

I agree. It's even worse when people (co)-create problems, perform several objectionable acts and then (mostly) blame others for it.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...t=58342&page=2
#54

You dont seem to have much of a clue as to what actualy happend....
Or the order things happend in.....

That seems to be correct: they don't know what happened. Others do.

[Just A Girl]

Ive just relized this is open again.

And i also relized all my mails to tossainu Are unread.

I beleve Here is a good place to post What i wished to say.
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thank you for your Post's in the "geting the idea" Thread.

Now I finaly Have A good enough picture in my head of how things unfolded.
I can beleve that Some 1 els created accounts in defence of beirut.
I can also understand That ANY 1 could have Created an account Using my email adress As that is indeed a public address.

Also I can easily see how An onlooker could have identified me as the possible culprate Due to the fact that i made no seecrets of the inital situation.
So theres no reason for me Not to beleve you when you say It was not beirut.

I dont quite comprehend How beirut knew to pm That account before i accsesd it,
I beleve its something to do with the fact i requested a pw' reset?
(I dont really Need a reply for that, Im happy enough now)

I Am very glad that you took the time to answer my Queery's Even though they could have been worded with a bit more tackt by my self.

Thanx Again,