I think EB spelled Pyrrhus' name wrong

**Shigawire** · 01-08-2006, 13:55

not word, letter.

Anyhow, Hannibal (allegedly) had a friendly discussion with Scipio Africanus in Ephesos. When Scipio asked Hannibal who he thought were the best generals of history, Hannibal stated that the best would be #1 Alexandros, #2 Pyrrhos, #3 Hannibal. He also said that if Scipio had not beaten him at Zama, Hannibal would be #1.

Pyrrhos didn't exactly die a very glorious death. Knocked unconscious by a stray rooftile thrown by an old woman on a rooftop, upon which an Argive soldier was able to kill him..

"Knocked out by a rooftile"

Not the most glorious ending one would think.

**VandalCarthage** · 01-08-2006, 15:03

Anyhow, Hannibal (allegedly) had a friendly discussion with Scipio Africanus in Ephesos. When Scipio asked Hannibal who he thought were the best generals of history, Hannibal stated that the best would be #1 Alexandros, #2 Pyrrhos, #3 Hannibal. He also said that if Scipio had not beaten him at Zama, Hannibal would be #1

Don't trust that fathead Livy

**Shigawire** · 01-08-2006, 15:30

I don't trust anyone.

rinse and repeat the word "allegedly" silently inside yourself and you'll get a balloon.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Chester** · 01-08-2006, 15:33

Interesting comments on Pyrrhus. Funny how time wasn't that kind to him or Scipio. All you hear about is Alexander and Caesar. I guess their tales are not what hollywood movies are made of. :(

I would love to see a film or HBO mini series on that time frame with Scipio, Pyrrhus, and Hannibal. Unfortunately they don't have epic story telling like Caesar's story of conquering hero, love, betrayal, and murder.

**Shigawire** · 01-08-2006, 16:07

Originally Posted by Chester

Unfortunately they don't have epic story telling like Caesar's story of conquering hero, love, betrayal, and murder.

Sure they do. They are more than epic enough. In fact they are making a movie about Hannibal starring Vin Diesel. "Hannibal the Conqueror"

The jury is still out on how that will turn out.

But at least it's better than having Denzel Washington star as Hannibal.

**QwertyMIDX** · 01-08-2006, 16:54

Originally Posted by Shigawire

But at least it's better than having Denzel Washington star as Hannibal.

Not so sure about that Shiga, I'd rather have a good actor who is the wrong skin color than an idiot.

**Chester** · 01-08-2006, 17:02

Caesar came in with a bang and left on a high note, murder in the form of betrayal. That' s good stuff.

Scipio was brought down in a smear campaign and ended up spending his final days a bitter old man. Hannibal lost, but did not die in a glorious manner (what happened to him?)

Vin Diesel? ROFL, it's over.

Hannibal kills himself to avoid surrendering to Rome while at Libyssa.
Scipio dies, ostracised by Rome.

Ok, I got the above quote from http://www.barca.fsnet.co.uk/

Hannibal died in a good manner!

**VandalCarthage** · 01-08-2006, 18:10

Not so sure about that Shiga, I'd rather have a good actor who is the wrong skin color than an idiot.

If Vin Diesel is passionate about Hannibal, then he might not be as stupid as he's previously seemed.

**Shigawire** · 01-08-2006, 17:03

Seriously. So Russel Crowe would be good as King Shaka of the Zulu tribe.

**Mouzafphaerre** · 01-08-2006, 18:00

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I sort of remember Orson Welles producing Othello (on the stage, not the film version he played Othello) with only black players. (Othello, Iago, Desdemona...everybdy were black.)
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