Ah, the hordes!

**Herakleitos** · 01-08-2006, 12:10

Originally Posted by Mamba

Wow. I didn't know they made a German version of this game.

'Schlachtresultate' sounds so much better than 'battle results'...

**Zorn** · 01-08-2006, 22:23

Nearly every game gets localized...no big deal.

Anyways, the Cav including the general did roughly half the killing, the rest was done be infantry. My first line of defense was pushed back from the tree in the middle of the picture all the way to the flag, killing huns all the time.
I really like how pushing works now.

**x-dANGEr** · 01-09-2006, 10:07

Can I ask you one thing, how did you get them to assault?? It's really too foolish to assault with a HA army, what an A.I.

**The Hun** · 01-09-2006, 17:16

Very nice picture of a great battle. But this shows how weak CA made the Huns. May I ask what setting you use? Very Hard?

**Zorn** · 01-09-2006, 19:29

Very hard / medium

**x-dANGEr** · 01-09-2006, 21:21

Originally Posted by The Hun

Very nice picture of a great battle. But this shows how weak CA made the Huns. May I ask what setting you use? Very Hard?

Assaults aren't Huns playgames, that's all about it. In an open field, that Roman army could have been mascarced if the Huns were played right.

**Garvanko** · 01-09-2006, 21:31

Very impressive. Battle odds 2:1 in favour of the AI, I presume?

**The Hun** · 01-10-2006, 17:47

Originally Posted by x-dANGEr

Assaults aren't Huns playgames, that's all about it. In an open field, that Roman army could have been mascarced if the Huns were played right.

I understand what you are saying. But the reality of history shows the Huns were well able to assault. When Attila campaigned the Balkans, Priscus and Jordanes tell of 'no less than 70 towns and cities were destroyed.'
I say CA made Huns weak and it is so. Again in reality, they had many subject peoples. Sarmatian, Ostrogoth, Skyrian, Gepid, Alan, Rugian, Thuringian, Herulian, Burgundian, Frank, Attila commanded more than Hunnic horse archers. Since long before, at the time of Rua, the Huns fielded strong infantry contingents.
So why no Gothic spears or Bosphoran Infantry and such? In BI we see such units as Runaway Slave Spears, Steppe Spears and Heavy Spears and Steppe Swords. These are some of the weakest infantry units and quick to rout. As you say, HA and cav are not good to seige and this battle shows how easy they are beaten in streets. The HA are confined and find it hard to skirmish, they become easy kills. It is just a pity that Huns are not a real threat. Once more the Romans are very strong, I have not played a single campaign where they have any real threat (other than me) and they crush rebellion with ease.
But still, that battle must have been great fun.

**x-dANGEr** · 01-10-2006, 22:08

You could always get Mercenaries or even feed cities out. The one thing I didn't like in BI is that morale was too lowered to some barbaric troops that they aren't worth it.

**A.Saturnus** · 01-10-2006, 22:54

Originally Posted by The Hun

I understand what you are saying. But the reality of history shows the Huns were well able to assault. When Attila campaigned the Balkans, Priscus and Jordanes tell of 'no less than 70 towns and cities were destroyed.'
I say CA made Huns weak and it is so. Again in reality, they had many subject peoples. Sarmatian, Ostrogoth, Skyrian, Gepid, Alan, Rugian, Thuringian, Herulian, Burgundian, Frank, Attila commanded more than Hunnic horse archers. Since long before, at the time of Rua, the Huns fielded strong infantry contingents.
So why no Gothic spears or Bosphoran Infantry and such? In BI we see such units as Runaway Slave Spears, Steppe Spears and Heavy Spears and Steppe Swords. These are some of the weakest infantry units and quick to rout. As you say, HA and cav are not good to seige and this battle shows how easy they are beaten in streets. The HA are confined and find it hard to skirmish, they become easy kills. It is just a pity that Huns are not a real threat. Once more the Romans are very strong, I have not played a single campaign where they have any real threat (other than me) and they crush rebellion with ease.
But still, that battle must have been great fun.

I don´t think that army contained many heavy spears or the results would have looked different. Steppe heavy spearmen are able troops and should not have problems with limitanei. The problem is that the hun horde does not have any. It consists mostly of cav and horde spearmen which are practically peasants. That´s why the huns have such problems with assaults.