Does Being Muslim Make you a Terrorist?

[Just A Girl]

Well until the 90's I would have said the hands down winners would have been the Irish...so do we declare Catholics and Protestants per head of population more likely to be terrorists?

Or can we state that Europeans are far more likely to commit mass murder, after all the Nazi camps, Stalin and Co., Kitchners Concentration Camps etc were all run by Europeans for Europeans.

I think extremists are far more likely to particapte in extraordinary rendering then moderates.

Hooray Some 1 who remembers the days b4 "All terorists were muslims"

i tried to ell em a few posts ago untill recently it was every 1 apart from muslims who were the terorists.
They seem to have selective memory :(

And i still say being opressed makes you a terrorist or makes you revoltl.
Not your religion...
"unless your religion is being opressed.."
But thats still opression thats 2 blame

[Watchman]

I wonder how many are even aware that Greece for example gets almost a regular number of bomb attacks from anarchists (no, honest) every year, and has for decades...

Muslim wonks don't AFAIK form even remotely the majority of the total bomb-tossing population of the world even today; but they *do* seem to have a virtual monopoly on high-profile international terrorism (ie. the sort that directly affects the West and hence gets real attention), which in practice means they end up looking like the majority. But aside from the Palestinian militants and Gaddafi's spooks (who got started on aircraft hijackings, bombings and similar dramatic stuff already in the Seventies no doubt due to the developements on the Israel front) high-end Muslim terrorism is AFAIK very much a Nineties and later issue.

Which of course raises the usual slew of questions regarding the circumstances and motivations that made such groups graduate from domestic terrorism and guerilla warfare to more hardcore stuff...

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Well until the 90's I would have said the hands down winners would have been the Irish...so do we declare Catholics and Protestants per head of population more likely to be terrorists?

Nope still Muslims. Besides the Irish dont represent christianity . You would be correct however back then stating that being Irish would make you more likely to be a terrorist than say if you were an american.

Or can we state that Europeans are far more likely to commit mass murder, after all the Nazi camps, Stalin and Co., Kitchners Concentration Camps etc were all run by Europeans for Europeans.

Theres plenty of examples just as bad before and after this. Again at the time your statement would be true. Today being african would fit this discription.

I think extremists are far more likely to particapte in extraordinary rendering then moderates.

This is very true. The problem is there are a huge number of Muslim extremists. Being Muslim certainly does not make you a terrorist. Howeveer when polls indicate that more than half the population of a country supports the use of terrorism we have more than just a fringe element and a real problem on our hands.

And i still say being opressed makes you a terrorist or makes you revoltl.
Not your religion...

The only people oppressing Muslims are other Muslims. Again the 911 terroists were all well to do.

[Ianofsmeg16]

Does being an Irishman make you drunk? Does being a Catholic Priest make you a child molestor? Does being a Southerner make you uneducated? Does being a New Yorker make you rude? Does being a Jew make you greedy? Does being a black make you a criminal? Does being a Mexican make you illegal? Does being an Asian make you smart? Does being a honkey make you a racist? Does being a Italian make you a mobster? Does being Polish make you stupid? Does being French make you a wimp? Does being an African make you and AIDS patient? Does being Brittish make you a snob? Does being in the Air Force make you great (I think it does!!!)? Does being in the Marines make you a maniac (I also believe it does )? And now for the final generalization of them all... After the movie Broke Back Mountain came out, does being a Texan make you a homo?

God loves all, from the most peaceful Muslim to the butt bumping gay TEXAS cowboy.

So back to the original question, no, being Muslim does not make you a terrorist.
Oh, I forgot one... Does being a Canadian make you a Goofball!?!?!?

Oh that made me laugh....but i aint a snob

[Seamus Fermanagh]

You dont know the company I keep. Im considerd the learned libreal

So that's why you're always on this web-site!

What keeps you connected with that crowd? Do they have other talents -- car repair, cross-stich, the ability to remove the chrome from a trailer hitch via suction?

[Tribesman]

I mean Im just sick of this nonsense and narrowmindedness.

Well SFTS you didn't have to wait very long for some examples of what you are complaining about did you .

But a far more relevant question is: Does being of a certain religion make one more likely to succumb to the allure of terrorist activities against an alledged infidel? Unfortunately, I think so.

An example of someone not liking the answer , so they change the question to give an answer that they feel more comfortable with .

Now that should have been another choice. Are Muslims more likely to become terrorists? Is there any doubt?
Another example of someone not wanting to face facts and grasping at an alternative that they feel more comfortable with .

So you must ask , are these examples of narrowmindedness or just nonsense ?

For an example of nonsense we have......
Well until the 90's I would have said the hands down winners would have been the Irish...
No until the 90s the hands down winners would be the various marxist , maoist , fascist or nationalist groups throughout the world .
And curiously enough that is still true today despite the fact that people are focussing more on religeous fundamentalists and conveniently ignoring the reality of the situation .

[Dâriûsh]

Does wearing a Pakol* make you a Taliban?




*Traditional Afghan hat

[master of the puppets]

i said GAH, i meant no. no religion dictates it, only extremests, lately mabey the terrorism has been rising because of the false propaganda about 70 virgins in heaven. its all about the reward, if all you need to do to attain heaven is conquer the holy land, to get 70 virgins to kill some shi'ahs, to attain nirvana to beat up a couple of dolphins. it does'nt matter how absurd it is as long as there is a reward there will be some narrow minded devotee who will try to get it.

[Devastatin Dave]

People kill each other for their own selfish reasons and use religion or ideaology to justify it. This thread will only become a flame feast regardless of the practical debate in which some will put into it unfortunately. Let's face it, terrorism is part of the human nature to destroy everything regardless of the detrimental effect it could have on oneself and those around you. So much death so much ill will. God forgive us all.

[master of the puppets]

god hath forsaken us to run wild and burn the surface of the earth he gave unto us, i mean c'mon we tortured and killed his bouncin baby boy jesus, so he has abandoned us to run our course, hooray we are gonna blow up the world (note; the skull is laughing too.)

[Geoffrey S]

Yes.

[Goofball]

Oh, I forgot one... Does being a Canadian make you a Goofball!?!?!?

Definitely not. Becoming a Goofball is a case of nurture over nature. It's a combination of early exposure to men skating around the ice at breakneck speeds in garters and stockings, at age 9 accidentally seeing your best friend's older sister undressing, and once while in the army after a two week field exercise having your pubic hair become so matted that a large portion of it got torn out when you finally had the opportunity to take off your underwear.

The above combination of experiences produces an individual who supports gay marriage, harbors a very strong fetish for women's underwear, and has a penchant for scrotum shaving. In short: he is a Goofball.

[BDC]

I read somewhere that the majority of suicide bombers are Hindu in Sri Lanka...

[Lentonius]

muslims are not terrorists.

some muslims are terrorists, but that is only a very small minority, and there are terrorists of every faith

[Gawain of Orkeny]

some muslims are terrorists

True

but that is only a very small minority

Also true. But they represent a far larger percentage of muslims than they do in any other religion.

and there are terrorists of every faith

Again read the above. Also a large portion of muslims support the use of terrorism, though this support has been dwindiling lately.

[Radier]

No of course not, but muslims tend to be over-representated in the cathegory "terrorists". All muslims I know are good people.

[Divinus Arma]

You asked the wrong question. You should have asked, "More often than not, does being a Terrorist mean that you are probably Muslim?"

The answer is Yes.


Most Muslims are not Terrorists.

But most Terrorists are Muslim.

[doc_bean]

Also true. But they represent a far larger percentage of muslims than they do in any other religion.

...at the moment.

[Reenk Roink]

Now that should have been another choice. Are Muslims more likely to become terrorists? Is there any doubt?

I sure think there is a huge doubt...

A State Department report on terrorism stated that about 1/5th of the terrorists belonging to all "official" terrorist groups are muslims. 1/5th-1/4 of the world population is muslim...

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

how many of those Muslim terrorists are associated with Islamic terrorist groups?

how many of the rest of the world's terrorist groups are more caught up in class and ethnicity issues than religious ones?

[Ice]

I'm going to have to agree with Divinus and Gawain here. Does being a Muslim make you a terrorist? Of course not, that's silly. Are the majority of terrorists Muslims? I'd have to lean to yes.

[Just A Girl]

How many Muslim terrorists do we all know then??

Cos i Know 4 ex welsh terrorists "mebion glyn dwr members"
I dont know any other terrorists at all,

So becous I my self have never met a muslim terrorist i dont feel it is my p;ace or any 1 elses to say most terrorists are muslim,

Unless you Know EXACTLY how many "terrorists" There are,
How can you Possibly hope to be able to say most of them are muslim.

[Papewaio]

I assume that was Just A Girl posting as ShambleS posts are a speeling shambles. While Just A Girl, well spells like a girl... neat and all.

I think all Welsh mums terrorise their kids.

[Tribesman]

But they represent a far larger percentage of muslims than they do in any other religion.

Really Gawain , and do you have any facts to back up that assumption ?


Are the majority of terrorists Muslims? I'd have to lean to yes.
I take it that is just a guess then ghost , and what exactly do you base you guess upon ?

But most Terrorists are Muslim.
Ah Divinus , another one working on guesswork I see .

Who's company are you keeping where this sort of thing is said seriously? I've never heard someone say this. Sure, there must be someone who believes this stupid crap, but there's certainly still idiots somewhere out there who believe the Earth is flat.

You spoke too early Prole


I read somewhere that the majority of suicide bombers are Hindu in Sri Lanka...
Go to my first post in this topic BDC , the group has conducted more suicide bombings than any other terrorist group , but while the group is mainly Hindu it also contains Muslims and Christians as it is an ethnic movement not a religeous one . They have also murdered the heads of State from two countries , though I suppose that could come under the label of aiming for regime change , so thats OK then

Now then , for all those people going on guesswork , would you like to examine Columbia which is almost exclusively Christian ?
There is a terrorist group down there that has nearly half a million active terrorists and nearly 12 million supporters who pay their "taxes" directly to the terrorists. Can you find a Muslim group on that scale ? Then perhaps you can move onto Peru , though the biggest group down there could hardly be called Christian even though it is a predominantly christian country.

You assume most terrorists are muslims because ....why ?
Is it because you have been hearing lots about Muslim terrorists recently ?
Or is it just because it seems like something simple that you can accept without examining any awkward things like facts ?

[Divinus Arma]

I like thinking that Muslims are all bombmakers and mass murderers. It's just easier that way.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

how many people did Meibion Glyn Dwr kill?

yeah, exactly.

a big fat 0

Although, to be fair, they probably burned down more empty second homes than Islamic terrorists.

Edit: I think I may have been a terrorist once. This guy at school used to pick on me. He started a fight one day and I knocked him down. After that he was scared of me. So any time that he started being mean to my friends I'd suggest that he didn't do so and he'd back down. I reckon that must count as terrorism as I was using an implied threat of violence to make him change his actions. Damn, spank me and call me Osama.

[Papewaio]

I think a lot of it is perception. The Irish didn't attack Americans, nor does the Timor Tigers or Basque separatists etc.

However Muslim terrorists will attack Americans.

Not quite terrorists, more like criminals:

Aussie marked as an American

THE Palestinian militants who kidnapped an Australian teacher in Gaza last month have revealed they released him because he was not American.

Brian Ambrosio, originally from Wangaratta in Victoria, was taken hostage by gunmen in the Gaza Strip on December 21 while driving to a private American school where he is deputy principal.
The kidnappers released Mr Ambrosio the same day, together with a Dutch colleague who also was detained.

The militants, members of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, have told the ABC they had the teachers under surveillance for weeks, but mistakenly believed they were US citizens.

"We moved on them early in the morning," one of the gunmen said.

"We'd had them under surveillance for about a month.

"Their nationality was the main reason they were released because they weren't the nationalities that we were after."

BTW according to the TV interview the kidnappers would not release Ambrosio until they had given him a proper lunch as a form of apology.

[Ice]

How many Muslim terrorists do we all know then??

Cos i Know 4 ex welsh terrorists "mebion glyn dwr members"
I dont know any other terrorists at all,

So becous I my self have never met a muslim terrorist i dont feel it is my p;ace or any 1 elses to say most terrorists are muslim,

Unless you Know EXACTLY how many "terrorists" There are,
How can you Possibly hope to be able to say most of them are muslim.

Well considering I don't live in Pakistan, Iraq, Iraq, or one of the many breeding grounds for Islamic terrorists, I would be kind of hard for me to met a Muslim who is a terrorist. I believe you know ex welsh terrorists, because you live around Wales? This is just a guess.

[AntiochusIII]

BTW according to the TV interview the kidnappers would not release Ambrosio until they had given him a proper lunch as a form of apology.

lol. At least they are polite...

...to non-Americans.

I like thinking that Muslims are all bombmakers and mass murderers. It's just easier that way.

but...BUT...if that is so, then I am soooo dead! I mean, there is this Muslim guy who sits right next to me on the bus EVERY morning! And he's a Muslim! And it's a bus!

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BOOgey...

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[Tribesman]

Well considering I don't live in Pakistan, Iraq, Iraq, or one of the many breeding grounds for Islamic terrorists, I would be kind of hard for me to met a Muslim who is a terrorist. I believe you know ex welsh terrorists, because you live around Wales? This is just a guess.

So you havn't met ant Welsh terrorists as you don't live in Wales , you don't live in an Islamic country so you havn't met any Islamic terrorists .
Fair enough .
So as you live in Michigan have you met any of the people from Michigan based groups that your government lists as terrorist groups ?

Whodathunkit , American terrorists , in Michigan of all places , I bet they must be Muslims .