Comparing EB and RTR

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Aw shucks. Flattery will get you everywhere, lg. Now we're all embarassed.

[cunobelinus]

My answer is write like the gauls they were not called what u called collectively they were known as gauls and the british we brought this argument up before nd won coz someone locked it .And why is EB obbesed with changing the names of everything to try and make themselves look better the orginal game had many units that were quite accurate i agree that alot of them arent but you shouldnt add units that arent needed but i spose thats the rubbish choice of EB

[Copperhaired Berserker!]

The Averni and the Aedui were tribes. In EB they are the only two playble tribes of Gaul. the rest are part of the Rebel factions. The rebels are really just tribes and factions that couldn't be playble because of the game limits. Same with Casse. Casse is just the only playble tribe of Britian.
You are just Bias, aren't you.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

We did just make up the names to make ourselves look better. The secret is out. None of them are right. We came really close to calling the "Arche Seleukeia" (pfft! what a hoot that one is!) the "Arch de Triomphe". And "Hayasdan" really just sounded a lot like "Hiya Stan!", which we thought was funny. We probably will change it to Hayastan in all honesty though - since that sounds even closer to "Hiya Stan!"

[cunobelinus]

i honestly think u should have not changed the name of some of the factions but it is ur choice but are wrong very wrong.

[Warlord 11]

My answer is write like the gauls they were not called what u called collectively they were known as gauls and the british we brought this argument up before nd won coz someone locked it

There was no gaul nation at this time. The name gaul is like the term European or Slavic. There were many states that belonged to the group collectively labeled Gaul. To put them as one faction is historically inaccurate. So EB split them into two major tribes and put the rest as rebels. The names of the factions in EB are the names of those tribes.

Why are you here if you hate EB so much? Have you played it? And please, use proper grammar and spelling. Your responses are difficult to read.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

We knew your opinions months ago when you flamed us over and over and got a lot of your posts deleted and a thread locked over this same issue. Anyone who's interested can take a look. Also... (from another post I've just made):

It's very interesting that within an hour or so today two people show up on the boards and express very negative opinions of our little mod, and that these two folks just happen to be the same ones who were badmouthing us months ago on this thread:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=966519

Thought that was just a nice coincidence.

[Reenk Roink]

Oh I know, It seems those people at EB forgot to make good use of the historians and archeologists on their team.

And the nerve of them changing the faction names to what the people actually called themselves...of course the English translation version is the most superior way...

And yeah, the choice of adding "units not needed" just makes me boil. Gosh, each faction should get just 3 basic types of units infantry, cavalry, and missle, and call them that because that's how we say it in English. They're all the same thing anyway.

And the pompous use of correct "grammer." God, thos guyz r scuh n00bs and stu00p3d.

[Copperhaired Berserker!]

Oh, littlegannon, how about you go back to nursery and learn the basics of the english lanuage?

[Reenk Roink]

Guys, I think were all humbled by littlegannon's delicate tact and eloquency on top of his omnipotent knowledge of all things history. And geez, how do we argue with his partner in crime's quote of "Historically, Carthaginians were known as Carthaginians."

[Wandarah]

Ahem.

It's a shame that my first post appears after an incomprehensible one, but perhaps that'll help. I've been reading these forums for literally years now, felt like this topic was a worthy one.

RTR is good, it was the mod that got me off Vanilla. I'm sure we're all pretty familar with it, it's pretty bug free etc and all in all, most excellent.

Unfortunately though I always seem to end up with the same issue at the mid-end of game. Army glut. I find it basically too boring and tedius to proceed past a certain point, as you need to battle your way through 20+ fullstacks to get anywhere.

So far in EB I much prefer the economy. Although it perhaps needs to be balanced slightly more (as growth can far outstrip your capacity to build improvements to mitigate it), the expense and time required to field a decent army feels much better to me. This usually means that battles between factions are far more important, and that it's not always a simple matter of whipping up another stack in 2 turns to deal with an invasion. A defeat can be truly crushing.

I've recently got enough surplus cash to field 2 decent armies (as Greece), this is after wiping out Macedon and the Epi's, as well as capturing some provinces in Asia Minor (and Salamis).

I'm really enjoying all the attention to detail that the VnV system has gone through. As well as the new skins and combat. Actually, pretty much everything about it. Of course I can see areas that need to be polished, or reworked, but it's still very much playable at the moment.

Sadly, I'm going to be travelling when the full version is released, so I probably wont be seeing it in its finished glory for a long time (if at all).

Thanks for all the hard work guys.

[cunobelinus]

how about i know my history and u are using my english as an excuse to try and shut me up .Copper haired beserker you can shut ur face and stop trying to tlk something u dont no much about.

[Copperhaired Berserker!]

Not just your english, eejit, your grasp of the histroy of the ancient world is the same of a AIM n00b. This guy is a stupid troll.

[cunobelinus]

It aint at all. i know about the names of celtic clans and names of tribes but i just think that EB is a complete load of dick heads thinking they are clever by changing the name of stuff that doesn't need changing .I am not a stupid trool u can really shove that .

[Reenk Roink]

I was going to reply with another caustic comment, but you know what, forget it...

EB has one of the most warm and responsive teams in the entire modding buisiness of RTW. If one truly had a qualm about anything historical, bring it up with them. I have, others have, and they have been gracious and prompt in response. Sometimes, the information/idea someone brings up is wrong, and they will patiently explain why that is. When it's right, they change it. But from what I've seen when people bring up historical issues or any other issue for that matter, they are all polite...

Even if you were all that you claim to be as a history guru, you still would be just one rude kid who obviously isn't going to get any attention...

[Copperhaired Berserker!]

Reenk Roink is right. So STFU, LG.

[Big_John]

These sorts of comparisons are inevitable. Please keep it civil and do not denegrate the work of any modders, regardless of what team they work with.

the dream is dead...

[Meneldil]

Sure.

[King of the dutch]

Hi

What exactly is the idea? And you're 14. Is yo' mama not gonna spank ya' for this use of language? (see i can use bad grammar too). If you don't like the mod then what are you doing here? If you know al the correct names for the tribes why don.t you post 'em with some sources? WTF is a 'gannon'? Was cannon out or some'? Yes if you put it in a 'blunt' (read impolite) way people are not really gonnan listen. So... go and play and leave the modders and us for that matter alone.

kotd

Btw A.S.? Maybe you should shange casse to mental cas(s)e. hrmpf....that's so funny mkay?

[Geoffrey S]

Nobody learns about not feeding trolls, do they? Is it just because it's so easy to do? It's propably easier than constructive posts, I guess.

Littlegannon, you're not going to convince anyone, and no-one will convince you. Leave it at that, please.

[Simetrical]

i know my history

Really? What are your qualifications? Major, master's, Ph.D.?

Oh, wait, your profile says you're fourteen. I guess that means you've taken a high school-level world history class. Well, to be fair, Steppe Merc is also still in high school, AFAIK, and he does history for us. So have you maybe taken AP history courses, at least? What are your grades in history? Have you taken serious extracurricular courses such as are often offered to high-schoolers by colleges?

Since we're discussing names, what makes you say our names are incorrect? What are your levels of proficiency in: Latin, Greek, P-Celtic, Q-Celtic, K-Celtic, Proto-Germanic, Punic, Classical Armenian, and Persian? Or do you just not personally think that native names should be used?

Nobody learns about not feeding trolls, do they?

More moron than troll, honestly, but I can give it a try anyway.

[Reenk Roink]

Really? What are your qualifications? Major, master's, Ph.D.?

Oh, wait, your profile says you're fourteen. I guess that means you've taken a high school-level world history class. Well, to be fair, Steppe Merc is also still in high school, AFAIK, and he does history for us. So have you maybe taken AP history courses, at least? What are your grades in history? Have you taken serious extracurricular courses such as are often offered to high-schoolers by colleges?

Since we're discussing names, what makes you say our names are incorrect? What are your levels of proficiency in: Latin, Greek, P-Celtic, Q-Celtic, K-Celtic, Proto-Germanic, Punic, Classical Armenian, and Persian? Or do you just not personally think that native names should be used?
More moron than troll, honestly, but I can give it a try anyway.

A belated happy 18 Sim

[Jebus]

For cryin' out loud, just ban the guy. I can't believe you gave him this much attention...

[MeroFromVero]

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Btw, terrific new sig line, MfV.

[MeroFromVero]

Btw, terrific new sig line, MfV.

Xiexie!

[Steppe Merc]

Well, to be fair, Steppe Merc is also still in high school, AFAIK, and he does history for us.

Yup... But I did get into colllege. So if EB is still not completed when I graduate, I can help as a real historian.

And age is only so relevant... my little brothers can be polite, and are knowledgable about stuff... perhaps not history, but that's not their thing.

[Big_John]

Yup... But I did get into colllege. So if EB is still not completed when I graduate, I can help as a real historian.

historians only need a bachelors to be considered official??

that explains a lot...

[Reenk Roink]

We are all historians here...with varying degrees of knowledge and credibility .

[Urnamma]

Locked.