When does the civil war start?

**Archer** · 01-14-2006, 01:59

I'm still playing my first campaign game (been almost a month) of this incredible game. It's 160 BC and the only other non Roman faction left with more than two cities is Egypt. My popularity with the people is 9 out of 10 and with the Senate is 4 out of 10. I've got 43 regions and lots of cash. Do I just attack Rome? I assume then I'll have the other 2 Roman factions to deal with then.

I was kind of hoping there would be some other way to win without actually attacking my fellow Romans like getting all your guys in the Senate offices and doing a coup or something but I guess this is the way it happened historically.

**Zalmoxis** · 01-14-2006, 03:44

No, you have to stop following the porders the Senate gives you.

**Ludens** · 01-14-2006, 19:34

Originally Posted by Zalmoxis

No, you have to stop following the porders the Senate gives you.

But you can also try to get the people's favour at ten; then you can start the civil war yourself (or do both).

Incidentally, Zalmoxis, the story in your signature is a widely-believed urban myth. Even one of my professors course recounted it as a true story. But it isn't. Both Americans and Russians used pencils initially, but out of safety considerations and to prevent broken-off of points from short-circuiting equipment, the Americans switched to a pen with an inbuilt-pump. (Link to Snopes.)

**Archer** · 01-14-2006, 23:22

Ok thanks. Haven't got a mission from the senate in a while come to think of it. The last one was to take Siwa from Egypt but I had to keep falling back cause he had too many troops down there and I failed. The vast majority of my forces were up around Turkey and I didn't feel like going all the way down there. My popularity with the people is a 10 now, Senate is a 4.

**Zalmoxis** · 01-15-2006, 01:28

Originally Posted by Ludens

But you can also try to get the people's favour at ten; then you can start the civil war yourself (or do both).

Incidentally, Zalmoxis, the story in your signature is a widely-believed urban myth. Even one of my professors course recounted it as a true story. But it isn't. Both Americans and Russians used pencils initially, but out of safety considerations and to prevent broken-off of points from short-circuiting equipment, the Americans switched to a pen with an inbuilt-pump. (Link to Snopes.)

Irrelevant, it's a funny story, just like the one about the lighthouse and a US carrier.

**icanus** · 01-15-2006, 03:39

Hi, First post here, though I've been lurking for a couple of weeks.

I'm currently in the middle of the civil war as the Julii in my first campaign. I started the war very politely - once I had enough popularity with the people I sent a diplomat to rome and withdrew military access and the senate outlawed me immediately.

Do the AI factions ever start a civil war? It'd be interesting to defend rome against one of the other families.

**Zalmoxis** · 01-15-2006, 07:50

Not likely, sometimes they will be outlawed if you do their mission for them.
Welcome to the Org.

**Ludens** · 01-15-2006, 10:58

Originally Posted by Zalmoxis

Irrelevant, it's a funny story, just like the one about the lighthouse and a US carrier.

I see. Because you didn't put up a disclaimer I thought you believed it.

**Zalmoxis** · 01-16-2006, 08:26

Originally Posted by Ludens

I see. Because you didn't put up a disclaimer I thought you believed it.

It's temporal until I find something better.

**Seagrave** · 01-14-2006, 10:29

I don't know exactly what heppens when you eliminate all the non roman factions and the senate hasn't gotten mad at you yet. With your standing being that high with the public I'm sure you've gotten the message "the people love you and would welcome you in rome" or somthing to that effect. You can either trigger the war by staging your army in another roman faction's land that you don't have military access to, and stay there after the senate orders you out. That might make them out law you and start the fight, or you could just make a preemptive strike on Rome it's self. That is GUARUNTEED to start the war.:)

**Monarch** · 01-14-2006, 11:02

Hmmm, well usually just wait until the Senate gives you missions, and ignore them.

Until then you might as well work on your province count and get it up to the 50, then once you attack Rome you will win the game (going for Rome before you have 50 means you have to hold it from ther other houses, potentially tricky.)