Gameplay/Realism balance -a message to the developers

**the tokai** · 01-17-2006, 11:44

Originally Posted by CyberRaptor

Alright, enough of this. I'm just going to ask what I really want to know. Are there Onagers in EB or not? That's all I care about.

Aren't you the same guy that kept spamming the RTR forums with your whining about onagers?

**CyberRaptor** · 01-17-2006, 12:37

I never "spammed" any complaint, so probably not. I did mention it a couple times, but there were several people who were repeatedly bringing it up. Certainly you don't think I'm the only one who objected to them being removed from the game.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 01-17-2006, 13:22

Orangers are within your time frame, as iirc, the Greeks invented them but they weren't the huge things in RTW and they sucked compared to Ballistae.

You have Ballistae, right?

CyberRaptor, Orangers were a poor man's artillary, since they only had one arm. The guys will probably give you two armed rock shooters (Ballistae), which are far better.

**QwertyMIDX** · 01-17-2006, 17:16

Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall

Orangers are within your time frame, as iirc, the Greeks invented them but they weren't the huge things in RTW and they sucked compared to Ballistae.

You have Ballistae, right?

IIRC they were invented around 50BC (so at the end of our timeframe) by the Romans. We will have Ballistae though yes.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 01-17-2006, 21:01

Well I had thought they were invented 280 BC but I think I got confused with the catapult, which would have been known in your time frame. In any case the onager was vastly inferior to Ballistae.

**QwertyMIDX** · 01-17-2006, 22:00

Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall

Well I had thought they were invented 280 BC but I think I got confused with the catapult, which would have been known in your time frame. In any case the onager was vastly inferior to Ballistae.

You're probably confusing the terminology, it's very strange. The "Catapulta" was actually a spear launching machine. The Lithobolos used the same desgin but was bigger and fire stones.