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    Default Re: General Upgrade function under 1.5

    I wouls almost be inclined to say it's linked to the Reforms - in my current Pontus campaign the bodyguards suddenly went Cappadocian while the first Royal Palace was still only half done, and the Roman stacks traipsing around Greece seemed to start getting their first post-Marian units soon afterwards. I'll be damned if there isn't a connection.

    More conclusively, in my older Egyptian campaign (started before the 1.5 update though, assuming that counts one way or the other) where naturally the Nile cities went max level fairly early on, the generals still seem to be driving around in chariots despite multiple maxed-out palaces...
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    Thats funny, because in my Macedonian Campaign when I built a Royal Palace my new guys got Companions but their dads still had light cav.
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    Weird. Even my newly mature Egyptians were driving chariots, whereas the Pontics went Cappadocian en masse while there were still two turns left on the Palace...
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    The game is very fussy on this issue with regards to the coding. I'd kept my original RTW v1.2 EDU file, and soon realised that Pontic generals weren't upgrading properly. Had to do a bit of re-tweaking to make them work properly, which also involved the usual updating of the enum file, export_units and also export_descr_sounds_unit_voice.

    From the responses already, it sounds as if they've fixed this Pontic general issue in vanilla versions. I've recently seen the Egyptians using their post-marius reforms general's cavalry, which is basically the egyptian cleruch model used for Nile cavalry. But as mentioned, I've kept the text file from v1.2 and converted it upto v1.5, not sure if they've changed it again in this time.


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    If it helps, in the Pontic game the Parthian and Armenian generals seem to have gone Cataphract around the same time as mine (and the Seleucids got theirs too), and the Egyptian generals I started fighting some time later had also upgraded to the cavalry version.

    Which I actually could appreciate greatly - chariots aren't any fun to fight with cavalry.

    Could be that the Egypt game is just having fits over having been updated to 1.5 halfway through - or the damn thing *is* tied to Marius, and the Romans haven't gotten that far in that campaign yet.

    I can actually see why the game would give the general upgrade to everyone simultaneously - it'd be a little harsh for the poor barbarian generals for example to have to run away from their much b33fi3r civilized colleagues for decades. But tying the trigger to the first faction around getting the top-level admin building instead of Marius would probably have been a better move IMHO.
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    Post Re: General Upgrade function under 1.5

    You can simply check if all factions have upgraded on the same turn (IE the marian reforms event) by toggling the fow off. Find an enemy family member, double-click it to bring up the scroll, then click the bodyguards button (roman helmet) to see what type of bodyguard its using. Type toggle_fow in the Romeshell console to turn off the fog of war.


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    Default Re: General Upgrade function under 1.5

    I can't technically confirm it's Marian Reforms that triggers the new bodyguards but I'm sure it is. I modded Capua to be a huge city and every time I play, the second turn sees all my generals having upgraded bodyguards, regardless of faction.

    What I wonders, however, is...can we hurry the Marian Reforms? Is that "upgrade_bodyguard" trigger in exports_buildings file the Marian trigger?

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