oh no, i agree with you, i meant comparatively with other types of horse archers...but then the same goes for most 'vanilla' troop types. i make a lot of use of HA and other 'crappy' cavalry like viking raiders when i can, any cavalry is better than none, and usually battle-winning. if i hadn't had HA in my army last night, for example, the Italian Doge would have gotten awayhmm actually i think they are better than inf with no val, as you can use them to shoot and tire out enemy cav that chase etc. and when the fighting starts if you place them behind enemies, they deplete morale even when not in combat then can chase routers so they arn't all that terrible without val....![]()
just don't rely on them to outfight Trebizond archers, for example. or even, as i discovered, unbroken UM...!
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